ChuckTs
Legend
Silver Level
I'm not arguing that there aren't merits to smooth calling the flop; I just think that raising is a little better.
I do agree that we can induce another bet from a semibluff, but we're also letting the initial bettor in cheap. He could very well be on a flush draw as well, or some other hand that we're losing value to by not raising. Keep in mind either could also have AxKs or AxQs and will definitely stack in that case.
If you're smooth calling to induce further action on the turn, it's not so bad, but if we're doing it to see if a non-spade drops, well that is bad. It reminds me of the player who likes to smooth call kings preflop to 'see if the flop comes safe'.
Oh, and fwiw villain will be getting 1.65:1, approaching the 1.86:1 needed to call profitably with a naked flush draw. I don't see him making a semibluff here without the Qs or Ks, and I see him calling more often than not with both given how aggressive he was with them (especially if he's sitting on a pair + FD).
Our stack size puts us in an awkward spot. At like <$40, a push on the flop looks a little better since there's really no other option. At like >$60, we're sitting deep enough to put in a raise of like half our stack instead of shoving. It seems like $50 is just a little too much to shove the flop, but not quite small enough to put in a standard raise.
I know you know this, but 3-betting that PF will make this a whole lot easier
I do agree that we can induce another bet from a semibluff, but we're also letting the initial bettor in cheap. He could very well be on a flush draw as well, or some other hand that we're losing value to by not raising. Keep in mind either could also have AxKs or AxQs and will definitely stack in that case.
If you're smooth calling to induce further action on the turn, it's not so bad, but if we're doing it to see if a non-spade drops, well that is bad. It reminds me of the player who likes to smooth call kings preflop to 'see if the flop comes safe'.
Oh, and fwiw villain will be getting 1.65:1, approaching the 1.86:1 needed to call profitably with a naked flush draw. I don't see him making a semibluff here without the Qs or Ks, and I see him calling more often than not with both given how aggressive he was with them (especially if he's sitting on a pair + FD).
Our stack size puts us in an awkward spot. At like <$40, a push on the flop looks a little better since there's really no other option. At like >$60, we're sitting deep enough to put in a raise of like half our stack instead of shoving. It seems like $50 is just a little too much to shove the flop, but not quite small enough to put in a standard raise.
I know you know this, but 3-betting that PF will make this a whole lot easier