Was I aggressive enough with this suited KA on a limit table full of fish?

El Viajero

El Viajero

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Please help me here as I am confused how best I should have played this hand. At first I felt that I did raise when I should have done and as a result did not maximise the pot. On the other hand, in retrospect I was happy that I didn't scare too many people off. Having said this my reason for not being more aggressive was not because I wanted to keep people in but more of the fact that I was worried UTG might have a two pair or something like that. I was only at the table for a few hands prior so I didn't have any reads whatsoever.

Comments and criticisms are most welcome. Thanking you in advance!

Poker Room skin (Holdempoker)
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.15/$0.3
10 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.65
Hero: $15
UTG+2: $24.25
MP1: $3.85
MP2: $3.60
MP3: $5.05
CO: $2.10
Button: $7.95
SB: $8.45
BB: $5.60

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with <font color='red'>A?</font> <font color='red'>K?</font>
UTG calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: <font color='black'>J?</font> K? <font color='red'>5?</font> (18.67SB, 9 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 3? (16.33BB, 7 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: <font color='red'>9?</font> (28.33BB, 6 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds.

Results:
Final pot: 31.33BB
 
Stick66

Stick66

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Hope you can edit this to show the suits before 9:34. With so many players in the hand, it is hard to tell if they were chasing the flush or just the straight, etc.
 
Tammy

Tammy

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El Viajero, if you pm me the hand history, I can edit it to reflect the suits. If it doesn't work via PM, I'll give you my email and do it that way.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

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Just use plain text on the converter and it should show up okay.
 
El Viajero

El Viajero

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Hmmm... not sure how to edit posts so here goes again... sorry for the ****up!

Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.15/$0.3
10 players

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with [AH] [KH]
UTG calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: [JC] [KS] [5H] (18.67SB, 9 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: [3S] (16.33BB, 7 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: [9H] (28.33BB, 6 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds.

Results:
Final pot: 31.33BB
 
El Viajero

El Viajero

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By the way, I did use a plain text convertor and pasted the results onto my post before putting the little [] brackets around the cards. It previewed fine but didn't come out correctly as you can see. The second post I did by deleting the cards and then entering them manually which seemed to work. A strange ole bug if ever I saw one...
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

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Pf/flop - standard

If you've raised the flop I see no reason not to raise the turn, as the 3s is a nothing card, and if anyone is now intent on waiting around with a spade draw (among the other ridiculous draws some of the players are liekly to have) it's in your interest to get more money in. If 3-bet, I then go into check-call mode and try to get to a cheap showdown. I certainly don't hate just calling one bet though.

River is fine. I know the other players are donks (seriously, upon reading this hand the word "call" has lost all meaning), but getting 3-bet would suck.

FWIW, from the tone of your original post I'm guessing you won the hand, and UTG probably had something like KQ (though anything is possible in donkland I suppose).
 
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t1riel

t1riel

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You need to be very aggressive with AK suited, particularly in limit. You were just about as aggressive as you should although I would have raised on the turn.
 
El Viajero

El Viajero

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Here are the results:

SHOWDOWN
UTG shows :8c4: :kd4:
Hero shows :ah4: :kh4:
MP2 mucks cards :10s4: :kc4:
Hero wins $9.25.

So yeah, they had real donkland hands. The reason I didn't raise after the turn is because I am paranoid about getting bad beats and I worry about some fish beating me on two-pair or something. Even though in this hand I'm clearly ahead I am afraid to say I sometimes bottle it and as a result pay the price when people get cheap rivers out of me.

In retrospect I see my error here and will be more aggressive in future.
 
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