Bluff-O-Matic

Lo-Dog

Lo-Dog

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So its been about 25 hands in this session and I have played in 1 hand so far where I folded top two pair on the river when the 4th spade came up. I'm on the button here and decide to raise it up and try to steal. The hand history tells the rest of the st ory. I figured the villain had an A, not so great kicker as he took a long time to call and eventually fold. I am often not sure when I should keep firing bullets but this time I decided to ride it out.:D

pokerstars Game #4903327436: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/05/11 - 18:58:40 (ET)
Table 'Hyperion' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Make_my_D ($3.55 in chips)
Seat 2: csnyder16 ($1.90 in chips)
Seat 3: PLF_DBA_MAN ($9.25 in chips) <<Thats me
Seat 4: Kid Goldfish ($3.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Time2Felt_U ($10.70 in chips)
Seat 6: lil_romeo2k4 ($0.20 in chips)
Seat 7: karla69 ($6.05 in chips)
Seat 8: CoinJock ($11.70 in chips)
Seat 9: Enzo77 ($4.60 in chips)
csnyder16: posts small blind $0.05
PLF_DBA_MAN: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PLF_DBA_MAN [Tc 9c]
Kid Goldfish: folds
Time2Felt_U: folds
lil_romeo2k4: folds
karla69: calls $0.10
CoinJock: folds
Enzo77: folds
Make_my_D: calls $0.10
csnyder16: calls $0.05
PLF_DBA_MAN: raises $0.20 to $0.30
karla69: calls $0.20
Make_my_D: calls $0.20
csnyder16: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [Th 7c Ac]
csnyder16: checks
PLF_DBA_MAN: bets $0.40
karla69: folds
Make_my_D: calls $0.40
csnyder16: folds
*** TURN *** [Th 7c Ac] 3♦
PLF_DBA_MAN: bets $1.10
CoinJock is sitting out
lil_romeo2k4 leaves the table
Make_my_D: calls $1.10
*** RIVER *** [Th 7c Ac 3d] 7♥
PLF_DBA_MAN: bets $2.40
Make_my_D: folds
PLF_DBA_MAN collected $4 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.20 | Rake $0.20
Board [Th 7c Ac 3d 7h]
Seat 1: Make_my_D (button) folded on the River
Seat 2: csnyder16 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: PLF_DBA_MAN (big blind) collected ($4)
Seat 4: Kid Goldfish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Time2Felt_U folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: lil_romeo2k4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: karla69 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: CoinJock folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Enzo77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
robwhufc

robwhufc

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What bluff? Opponent was chasing a flush and didn't hit. Bet you anything you had a better hand than him - bluffing is getting someone with a better hand to fold. What did you think he had, pair of aces? If so, why did he fold to your final bet when the last 7 flopped? - did he think you had 3 of em? Nope, if he had and ace, he'd have called.
 
Lo-Dog

Lo-Dog

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t1riel said:
Nice Bluff! There must have been a big sigh of relief when your oponenet folded his hand on the river.


Ya I'm glad it wasnt a live hand cuase my face was probably all red with nervousness. Big relief when he folded. I was staring down his avatar sending him thoughts of folding lol.

To rob: maybe he was chasing a flush, but from hands played after this he wasn't chasing with the wrong odds so not sure. I really felt he had the A but since I raised pf he thought I had AK or something. I was real happy to win this one.
 
robwhufc

robwhufc

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Lo-Dog said:
To rob: maybe he was chasing a flush, but from hands played after this he wasn't chasing with the wrong odds so not sure. I really felt he had the A but since I raised pf he thought I had AK or something. I was real happy to win this one.
Maybe, but if he's called 2 bets with a pair of aces I dont see why he wouldn't call the 3rd as it was hardly a scare card, and there was a (comparatively for the level) largish pot. You cant really talk about pre flop raises when you are talking about 10 cents, and personally I wouldn't "bluff" into 3 players with 2nd pair when there was an Ace on the board.
 
Lo-Dog

Lo-Dog

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robwhufc said:
I wouldn't "bluff" into 3 players with 2nd pair when there was an Ace on the board.

Thats where I am looking for some advice. Whether his hand could beat mine or not I threw out the first raise hoping if no one had an A they would all fold. Got the one caller and decided to shoot another bullet. Then when he called that one I wasnt sure what to do. If I hadn't put him all in on the river I am sure he would have called. Maybe this was only a semi bluff but once you start firing bullets how do you know when to stop.
 
robwhufc

robwhufc

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You won the hand, but I wouldn't neccesarily say you played it well. In my opinion (again maybe you were right), all the opponent needed to have to beat you was an Ace. He didn't in this hand (i dont think), but 3 times out of 4 he will. That's my look on hand anyway!
 
spore

spore

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It is possible that he was on a hand like KQ/KJ, having a chance for a medium-pair and a gut-shot straight (maybe even flush as well). With that many outs he certainly could've called the flop/turn bets. Nothing hit, so he folded. If he was a solid player, this is the kind of hand I would put him on. If he was a weaker player, I would put him on a naked flush draw.

You were basically semi-bluffing all the way until the river. There were no raises, so you would have to put him on a draw, and the river was a dead card. So yeah, it makes since to fire another bullet there.
 
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