AQ-suited, BB facing re-raise

Stick66

Stick66

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Well, a while back I found out from my buddies here at CC that I was a bit off regarding the strength of KQo. Now I've run into another tricky hand in a tricky situation.

Table read: "Money.." is aggro/semi-loose with steal tendancies. "Big W.." is a poor player with luck. The rest are loose/passive chasers typical to these stakes.

I'm really trying to work on my aggressiveness, so my initial thought was that the pot is building and looking juicy. My question is: In this situation with a re-raised pot and others left to act, is my AQ-suited strong enough to contest this growing pot from the BB?

FullTiltPoker Game #772325505: Table Pueblo Vista - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:38:19 ET - 2006/07/05
Seat 2: dkeenan24 ($2.10)
Seat 3: Bevo67 ($3.90)
Seat 4: MrSticker ($4.90)
Seat 5: dylo1017 ($1.40)
Seat 6: big whitie ($5.90)
Seat 7: allinflop ($3.70)
Seat 8: Mac5102 ($4.35)
Seat 9: Money_Bags_9 ($1.90)
Bevo67 has 5 seconds left to act

Bevo67 posts the small blind of $0.05
MrSticker posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrSticker [Qs As]
dylo1017 folds
big whitie calls $0.10
allinflop folds
Mac5102 folds
Money_Bags_9 raises to $0.30
dkeenan24 calls $0.30
Bevo67 raises to $1
MrSticker ...
 
t1riel

t1riel

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I don't think A, Q suited is a hand to reraise a reraise with so I would call. Then, based on the flop, I would bet to see where everyone stands. You really can't tell what the players have preflop.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

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Fold.

If a passive player is reraising like this at a full table, he's telling us he has a hand better than AQs. Plus we're not closing the action, and there's a danger we will be forced to fold by another raise from the original raiser or the EP limper (or the caller, but this is much less likely).

MrSticker said:
"Big W.." is a poor player with luck.

I hope you're not letting the fact that he's running good affect the way you play at all. "_____ is lucky" isn't a read, and should have no bearing on your action here.
 
Stick66

Stick66

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Dorkus Malorkus said:
I hope you're not letting the fact that he's running good affect the way you play at all. "_____ is lucky" isn't a read, and should have no bearing on your action here.

No, I'm with ya. I'm focused on the "poor" part, not the "lucky". I meant I don't fear his call because the only reason he's still at the table and not broke is from a couple of very bad, but lucky plays.
 
zinzan1000

zinzan1000

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The pot is building nicely and I can see your interest in it, the fact that you are very aware that players still have to act after you make your decision is a good thing in itself.
At present you are faced with a raise and a re-raise and have no way of knowing how the betting will go after you act, I would have to agree with Dorkus on this one and fold, AQ in the BB is always a welcome sight but the way this pot is going I would fold.
Aggression controlled or otherwise has its place, and now is not the time.
Just calling IMO would be a very bad play, so its raise or fold, fold being my favoured option here.
Just an opinion.
 
F

Fish

Rock Star
Fold.
You can't call a raise and a "RE-Raise" out of position with A-Qo.
At least you shouldn't, anyways.
 
blankoblanco

blankoblanco

plays poker on hard mode
Agreed, fold. Wouldn't get into this unless I had a made hand, or maybe AKs. It just seems dangerous. Even if you get your Q high flop, if someone else is holding KK, you're likely to go broke. If you get your A and someone else has AK, you're in trouble as well. With that kind of pre-flop aggression, you're not going to feel comfortable you have the best hand unless you get 2 pair, trips, or your flush. I would happily let this go.
 
Stick66

Stick66

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My second thought was to call and try to hit Spades or Queens. Then I caught myself and thought about my aggression. "Push or fold", I thought. I picked the latter, but wasn't thrilled with the choice until I saw the result. I made the lucky decision, but I still wasn't sure my play was correct.

Looks like the consensus is to fold. I guess I had a better grasp of my hand's strength than I thought. Thanks all.

FullTiltPoker Game #772325505: Table Pueblo Vista - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:38:19 ET - 2006/07/05
Seat 2: dkeenan24 ($2.10)
Seat 3: Bevo67 ($3.90)
Seat 4: MrSticker ($4.90)
Seat 5: dylo1017 ($1.40)
Seat 6: big whitie ($5.90)
Seat 7: allinflop ($3.70)
Seat 8: Mac5102 ($4.35)
Seat 9: Money_Bags_9 ($1.90)
Bevo67 has 5 seconds left to act

Bevo67 posts the small blind of $0.05
MrSticker posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrSticker [Qs As]
dylo1017 folds
big whitie calls $0.10
allinflop folds
Mac5102 folds
Money_Bags_9 raises to $0.30
dkeenan24 calls $0.30
Bevo67 raises to $1
MrSticker folds
big whitie folds
Money_Bags_9 calls $0.70
dkeenan24 calls $0.70

*** FLOP *** [9d 9h 3h]
Bevo67 bets $2.90, and is all in
Money_Bags_9 calls $0.90, and is all in
dkeenan24 folds
Bevo67 shows [Kc Kh]
Money_Bags_9 shows [8h Ah]
Uncalled bet of $2 returned to Bevo67

*** TURN *** [9d 9h 3h] [Qh]

*** RIVER *** [9d 9h 3h Qh] [Tc]
Bevo67 shows two pair, Kings and Nines
Money_Bags_9 shows a flush, Ace high
Money_Bags_9 wins the pot ($4.50) with a flush, Ace high

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5 | Rake $0.50
Board: [9d 9h 3h Qh Tc]
Seat 2: dkeenan24 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Bevo67 (small blind) showed [Kc Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 4: MrSticker (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: dylo1017 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: big whitie folded before the Flop
Seat 7: allinflop didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Mac5102 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Money_Bags_9 showed [8h Ah] and won ($4.50) with a flush, Ace high


("Money..." tried his typical loose pre-flop play and almost got nicked, but lucked out.)
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

HELLO INTERNET
If the reraiser was a maniac, the table was generally weak, a couple of the others in the pot and I were deepstacked, and I was in late position, I might call.

However the opposite is mainly true here - the reraiser is passive, nobody is really deepstacked, and you're OOP (it's a 5c-10c table so the players are obviously weak, but all other factors are against you).
 
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