ANY help would help tons, a session of 14 hands

dead lîke me

dead lîke me

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This is my first posting. Most of my sessions have been like this.
I usually sit down with 25xBB, and leave when i'm down 5x (small blind+big blind) in this case its 1.75 so I leave when i reach 10.75. From my experience, I usually can't ever get myself back up past this amount. I'm fairly new to playing poker with Poker tracker, and I was recently in .02/.04 and was up 3BB/100 but its very fishy. I've been studing: Lee Jones WinningLL, Sklanskys TTOP I don't really know what is wrong with my game any advice would be helpful. Also i find that if i win about 4 or 5 BB within the first 2 hands, and end up getting cold cards for the next 30-50 hands, and end up leaving the table down. This session was 14 Hands
Hand 12 i did not play but would have won, i wrote how i would have played it.
Any feedback on ANYTHING would be apreciated.
Hands 1,2,8,11,13 I played... is this too many hands? out of 14 hands

Hand 1: dead lîke me ($12.50 in chips)
pokerstars
Limit Holdem Ring Game
Limit ($0.25/$0.50)
12:05:34 - 10 players

Pre-flop (10 players) dead lîke me is (#10) BB with J♦ 6♦
5 fold, (#2) calls, (#3) calls, (#5) calls, SB calls, dead lîke me checks

Flop: A♦ 4♦ 6♠ (5SB, 5 players)
SB Checks, dead lîke me checks, (#2) bets,
(#3) folds, (#5) raises, SB folds, dead lîke me folds, (#2) calls

Turn: 4♣ (4.5BB, 2 players)
(#2) checks,(#5) bets, (#2) calls

River: 6♣ (6.5BB, 2 players)
(#2) checks, (#5) bets, (#2) calls

(#5) with A♠T♥ won $4.05 (.20Rake)

Was it wrong of me to fold on flop to the Raise?
I was thinking either #2 or #5 had Ax OK kicker, maybe even 2 Pair I had 9 ♦ outs , middle pair, 3 outs for catching another 6. It was the 2 Cold bets to me that made me fold, I would have called the SB, but probably would have folded on the turn...

Hand 2: dead lîke me ($12.25 in chips)
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Limit Holdem Ring Game
Limit ($0.25/$0.50)
12:06:35 - 10 players

Pre-flop (10 players) dead lîke me is (#9) SB with 2♦ K♣
7 fold, (#4) calls, dead lîke me calls, BB checks

Flop: 7♦ 3♠ 5♦ (3SB, 3 players)
dead lîke me checks, BB checks,(#4) bets, dead lîke me folds, BB folds
(#4) wins $0.75 (0Rake)

Hand 3: dead lîke me ($12 in chips)
dead lîke me folds (#8) on the Button with 9♠ 3♦
Hand 4: dead lîke me ($12 in chips)
dead lîke me folds (#7) the cut off with J♠ 3♠
Hand 5: dead lîke me ($12 in chips)
dead lîke me folds (#6) the cut off with J♦ 8♠ (#7 left)
Hand 6: dead lîke me ($12 in chips)
dead lîke me folds (#5) middle position with 6♥ 2♥
Hand 7: dead lîke me ($12 in chips)
dead lîke me folds (#4) middle position with 4♣ 3♥

Hand 8: dead lîke me ($12 in chips)
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Limit Holdem Ring Game
Limit ($0.25/$0.50)
12:11:56 - 9 players

Pre-flop (9 players) dead lîke me is (#3) early position with 3♥ 3♦
5 fold, dead lîke me calls, button folds, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: J♦ 4♠ J♥ (2.4SB, 2 players)
BB checks, dead lîke me bets, BB folds

dead lîke me wins $0.60 (0Rake)

Hand 9: dead lîke me ($12.35 in chips)
dead lîke me folds (#1) early position with 9♣ 6♦
Hand 10: dead lîke me ($12.35 in chips)
dead lîke me folds (#1) early position again with Q♦ 2♦

Hand 11: dead lîke me ($12.35 in chips)
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Limit Holdem Ring Game
Limit ($0.25/$0.50)
12:13:33 - 10 players

Pre-flop (10 players) dead lîke me is (#10) BB with 7♦ 3♠
6 fold, (#2) calls, button folds, SB folds, dead lîke me checks

Flop: J♠ 9♣ J♥ (2.4SB, 2 players)
dead lîke me checks, (#2) checks

Turn: Q♥ (1.2BB, 2 players)
dead lîke me checks, (#2) bets, dead lîke me folds
(#2) - .60 (0Rake)

Hand 12: dead lîke me ($12.10 in chips)
12:14:20 - 10 players

Pre-flop (10 players) dead lîke me is (#9) SB with 3♣ 7♥
7 fold, (#3) K♣ 7♣ calls, (dead lîke me folds), BB 4♥ 4♣ checks

Flop: 3♦ 8♦ 7♦ (2.4SB, 2 players)
BB 4♥ 4♣ checks, (#3) K♣ 7♣ bets, BB 4♥ 4♣ calls
(would have Check Raised)

Turn: 5♣ (2.2BB, 2 players)
BB 4♥ 4♣ checks, (#3) K♣ 7♣ checks
(would have bet)

River: Q♠ (2.2BB, 2 players)
BB 4♥ 4♣ checks, (#3) K♣ 7♣ checks
(would have checked)
(#3) K♣ 7♣ - 1.05 (Rake.05)

Would my play on this hand have been wise? I know the BB with 4♥ 4♣ would have called the bet on the turn since he was on a draw, and would have folded to a bet on the river. i would be afraid to bet on river, because i could be CR by (#3) if he was holding Q(3/8/7/5/Q) or x♦ x♦=flush

If i had won that pot, i probably would have left, seeing how i was having difficulty getting my cards. Would it be wrong to leave then? Again any input of any kind would be greatly appreciated

Hand 13: dead lîke me ($12 in chips)
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Limit Holdem Ring Game
Limit ($0.25/$0.50)
12:15:25 - 10 players

Pre-flop (10 players) dead lîke me is (#8) button with K♠ Q♣
6 fold, (#4) 4♠ 4♦ calls, dead lîke me calls, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: J♥ 2♦ 2♥ (3.4SB, 3 players)
BB checks, (#4) 4♠ 4♦ bets, dead lîke me raises, BB folds, (#4) 4♠ 4♦ calls

Turn: 10♠ (3.7BB, 2 players)
(#4) 4♠ 4♦ checks, dead lîke me bets, (#4) 4♠ 4♦ calls

River: 3♠ (5.7BB, 2 players)
(#4) 4♠ 4♦ checks, dead lîke me checks
(#4) 4♠ 4♦ - 2.75 (Rake0.10)

I have no clue why he called to the river with 44 after i raised him on the flop... I expected him to fold, or at least fold on the turn. is he a good player for calling? a bad player for thinking his small pocket pair was good?
Was it correct to check the river? Do you think if i bet he would have folded? My thought was no, and that i was wasting my time with King high

Hand 14: dead lîke me ($10.75 in chips)
12:16:14 - 10 players

dead lîke me folds (#7) cut off with T♣ 5♣
long story short, i would have won 1.55 with a pair of Ts.
I left
 
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tenbob

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Thats pretty much unreadable Sir, try running them through a hand convertor the next time.
 
dead lîke me

dead lîke me

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Still unreadable?

I see what i did wrong.

Pokerstars
Limit holdem ring game
Limit(.25/.50)

I was dealt [jd][6d] in BB
5 fold, 2 early position players call, 1 middle position call, SB calls and I check

Flop: [ad][4d][6s] (5SB, 5 players)
SB checks, I check, player early position bets, the middle position player raises, SB folds, I fold, early position calls the raise.

Turn: [4c] (4.5BB, 2 players)
Early checks, Middle bets, early calls

River: [6c] (6.5BB, 2 players)
early checks, middle bets, early calls

both showdown with a pair of aces, early was out kicked.

Should I have called the 2cold bets to me on the flop?
 
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FlopDeezNutz

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OK, here is what I can gather from the information that you gave.
Your first mistake is that you are involving yourself in a lot of pots with marginal hands from out of position. Unless you catch an incredible streak of luck, you are going to have a losing session with the hands that you have been playing.
Your second mistake is that you are playing extremely loose for someone entering a table with a buy in of only 25 BB. You need to create a tight/aggressive table image initially instead of getting into a lot of pots hoping to catch lightning. Once you show down 1 or 2 strong hands, then you can begin to loosen up a little bit because they will fear your table image based on the hands you have shown down. Patience is critical, especially with a small stack. I also recommend going to the table with 40 BB, it will give you a stack to rebuild if you happen to catch shit luck.
The third mistake that I see you making is that you are setting a loss stop limit, which makes you fear the table instead of giving yourself a chance to have the table fear you. If you are scared of losing, maybe you should try limit poker so that you can be in more control of your losses. Either that, or maybe poker isn't for you. We all have losing sessions, it is a part of the game.
 
mrsnake3695

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I really only read the first hand because it's really hard to read. Are you playing limit or no-limit. If you are playing limit, the first hand is an easy call for 1 small bet. You have a pair and a flush draw so you have lots of outs, you are easily getting the right odds to call.

As for the rest, I don't know but it seems like you are playing loose/weak which is the worst possible way to play. Loose is ok if you are aggressive and are good at reading the board and the other players. Otherwise play tight and aggressive. When you enter a pot you should be raising not calling. Pay attention to position, dump mediocre holdings in early position and loosen up in later position in an unopened pot.

You should rarely call preflop in limit. Raise or fold. There are exceptions, such as suited connectors or small pairs when in late position against an early raise or a lot of limpers. Some would say raise with limpers with these hands but I think that is a mistake since you have a weak hand that needs ot improve to win and anyone that entered the pot isn't going to fold for one small bet. Plus you want alot of players with these kind of hands. Don't play any cards that are suited that you wouldn't play unsuited. There are of course exceptions to every rule of course. Any 2 cards 10 and higher that are suited should be played from any position where if you were under the gun with K-10 off suit you should muck it. But don't limp, if it's worth playing, it's worth betting. If you don't think it's strong enough to raise with then it probably should be dumped depending on your position and the number of players in the pot.
 
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alan1983

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1st hand, you should definitely call. You have 14 outs to win the hand against a pair of aces.

The KQ hand:

Why did you get yourself in trouble there?

You didnt raise preflop, youve only got one BB in hand, other guy bet out, what were you trying to do with the raise? represent a 2? not likely.

A jack? how would you know he doesnt have one?

If hes betting flush draw, hes not gonna fold to a flop raise.

Anyway, he only had one overcard to his pair and you couldve easily raised with a flush draw yourself
 
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hand 1: omfg you folded? are you serious?? bet/3bet/call cap. do people actually fold this hand??

thats all i read
 
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Hand 1
I think your were a bit timid there, besides the pair, u got flush possibilities....
However, the 2 bets in front of you suggest exactly what you saw. Rabbithunting (figuring out what you would have had) is futile.

Hand 2
Fold that preflop in the SB

Hand 8,
It worked. What do you do to a raise?

Hand 12.
Good fold. There ya go rabbithunting again. Had you won, and then left you should feel no guilt.


Hand 13
You should have raised PF. And then again post flop. At that point, if you have raised more than the min, then give it up, he has you beat if he is still calling.
 
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