Analysis of Tygran at 25nl

ChuckTs

ChuckTs

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Mic stopped working AGAIN so I'll have to do this old-school style:

pokerstars Game #15726309971: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:05:50 (ET)
Table 'Penthesilea' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: turquoise ($22.10 in chips)
Seat 2: VVonTonMan ($14.05 in chips)
Seat 3: JimiRecall ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: maico360 ($19 in chips)
Seat 5: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: k3ys3r ($5 in chips)
Seat 7: Tygran37 ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 8: owaioman ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 9: mdntokr ($22.75 in chips)
Tygran37: posts small blind $0.10
owaioman: posts big blind $0.25
JimiRecall: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [7s 7c]
mdntokr: folds
turquoise: calls $0.25
VVonTonMan: folds
JimiRecall: checks
maico360: calls $0.25
suckerpoint: folds
k3ys3r: folds
Tygran37: calls $0.15
owaioman: checks
*** FLOP *** [6s Kd 7h]
Tygran37: bets $0.50
owaioman: calls $0.50
turquoise: folds
JimiRecall: folds
maico360: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [6s Kd 7h] [4s]
Tygran37: bets $2
owaioman: calls $2
maico360: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [6s Kd 7h 4s] [9h]
Tygran37: bets $5
owaioman: raises $7 to $12
maico360: folds
maico360 is sitting out
Tygran37: calls $7
*** SHOW DOWN ***
owaioman: shows [8c Ts] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Tygran37: shows [7s 7c] (three of a kind, Sevens)
owaioman collected $31.15 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $32.75 | Rake $1.60
Board [6s Kd 7h 4s 9h]
Seat 1: turquoise folded on the Flop
Seat 2: VVonTonMan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JimiRecall folded on the Flop
Seat 4: maico360 folded on the River
Seat 5: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: k3ys3r (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Tygran37 (small blind) showed [7s 7c] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 8: owaioman (big blind) showed [8c Ts] and won ($31.15) with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 9: mdntokr folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Aside from betting more on flop I think you played this fine. Nasty result, just brush it off.

PokerStars Game #15726392759: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:10:39 (ET)
Table 'Antares' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Ronfar3 ($27.55 in chips)
Seat 2: PatMicMac ($19.35 in chips)
Seat 3: JTCelica ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 4: garrymdp ($7.85 in chips)
Seat 5: Tygran37 ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 6: puzzlemode ($4.40 in chips)
Seat 7: Motiv8tor ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 9: bhurak147 ($30.05 in chips)
Motiv8tor: posts small blind $0.10
bhurak147: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Ks Ad]
Ronfar3: calls $0.25
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: folds
garrymdp: folds
Tygran37: raises $0.50 to $0.75
puzzlemode: folds
Motiv8tor: folds
bhurak147: folds
Ronfar3: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6d 3s 9c]
Ronfar3: checks
Tygran37: bets $1.50
Ronfar3: folds
Tygran37 collected $1.80 from pot
Tygran37: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.85 | Rake $0.05
Board [6d 3s 9c]
Seat 1: Ronfar3 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: PatMicMac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JTCelica folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: garrymdp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tygran37 collected ($1.80)
Seat 6: puzzlemode (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Motiv8tor (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: bhurak147 (big blind) folded before Flop

Preflop is too small - we want to raise 4-5bbs, so $1 or $1.25 or so. Postflop is good.

PokerStars Game #15726398075: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:10:58 (ET)
Table 'Autonoma' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: JimiRecall ($52.95 in chips)
Seat 3: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Sohlkind ($67.85 in chips)
Seat 5: BNA Act ($20.65 in chips)
Seat 6: EAbrams1113 ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 7: mulligen ($12.95 in chips)
Seat 8: paul reed72 ($6.85 in chips)
Seat 9: Tygran37 ($24.65 in chips)
JimiRecall: posts small blind $0.10
suckerpoint: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Qc Qs]
dar79 leaves the table
Sohlkind: folds
BNA Act: raises $0.75 to $1
EAbrams1113: folds
mulligen: folds
paul reed72: folds
Tygran37: raises $1.50 to $2.50
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
BNA Act: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Jc 4s 3s]
BNA Act: checks
00Govan00 joins the table at seat #1
Tygran37: bets $4
BNA Act: folds
Tygran37 collected $5.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.35 | Rake $0.25
Board [Jc 4s 3s]
Seat 2: JimiRecall (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: suckerpoint (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Sohlkind folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BNA Act folded on the Flop
Seat 6: EAbrams1113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mulligen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: paul reed72 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tygran37 (button) collected ($5.10)

Again too small pf. Raise to at least $3. Postflop is fine again - I think we should be prepared to play for stacks, especially since he's a little short and the fact that there's a FD out there.

PokerStars Game #15726416404: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:12:04 (ET)
Table 'Autonoma' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: 00Govan00 ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: JimiRecall ($52.85 in chips)
Seat 3: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Sohlkind ($67.85 in chips)
Seat 5: BNA Act ($18.15 in chips)
Seat 6: EAbrams1113 ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 7: mulligen ($12.95 in chips)
Seat 8: paul reed72 ($6.85 in chips)
Seat 9: Tygran37 ($27.25 in chips)
suckerpoint: posts small blind $0.10
Sohlkind: posts big blind $0.25
00Govan00: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [5d 4d]
BNA Act: calls $0.25
EAbrams1113: folds
mulligen: calls $0.25
paul reed72: folds
Tygran37: folds
00Govan00: checks
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Sohlkind: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2s Th]
Sohlkind: checks
BNA Act: checks
mulligen: checks
00Govan00: checks
*** TURN *** [Jh 2s Th] [Kc]
Sohlkind: bets $1
BNA Act: folds
mulligen: folds
00Govan00: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Jh 2s Th Kc] [3d]
Sohlkind: bets $2
00Govan00: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sohlkind: shows [2d Kd] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
00Govan00: mucks hand
Sohlkind collected $6.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.10 | Rake $0.30
Board [Jh 2s Th Kc 3d]
Seat 1: 00Govan00 mucked [5s Ks]
Seat 2: JimiRecall (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: suckerpoint (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Sohlkind (big blind) showed [2d Kd] and won ($6.80) with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 5: BNA Act folded on the Turn
Seat 6: EAbrams1113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mulligen folded on the Turn
Seat 8: paul reed72 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tygran37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Go ahead and limp here with your suited connector - not many players pull squeeze plays at these stakes and you can be pretty sure you're going to see a cheap flop here which is exactly what you want.

PokerStars Game #15726442371: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:13:38 (ET)
Table 'Penthesilea' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 ($15.60 in chips)
Seat 3: JimiRecall ($29.85 in chips)
Seat 5: suckerpoint ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Tygran37 ($22.85 in chips)
Seat 8: owaioman ($40.40 in chips)
Seat 9: mdntokr ($22.40 in chips)
JustR82 will be allowed to play after the button
suckerpoint: posts small blind $0.10
k3ys3r: is sitting out
Tygran37: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Ks Td]
k3ys3r leaves the table
owaioman: raises $0.25 to $0.50
mdntokr: folds
JustR82 leaves the table
BARRETO_06: folds
Zanshin99 joins the table at seat #4
yzf600r222: folds
jackie198201 joins the table at seat #6
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: folds
owaioman collected $0.60 from pot
owaioman: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.60 | Rake $0
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JimiRecall (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: suckerpoint (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Tygran37 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: owaioman collected ($0.60)
Seat 9: mdntokr folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I of course don't have stats, but against the loose, bad types of players (generally the type who will minraise), I'm calling an EP minraise with probably any two cards. I probably pitch K2 and those really trash hands, but any two remotely connected or suited cards I'm seeing a flop with since our implied odds are so big.

PokerStars Game #15726455913: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:14:26 (ET)
Table 'Penthesilea' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 ($15.60 in chips)
Seat 3: JimiRecall ($29.85 in chips)
Seat 5: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: Tygran37 ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: owaioman ($40.75 in chips)
Seat 9: mdntokr ($22.40 in chips)
jackie198201 will be allowed to play after the button
Tygran37: posts small blind $0.10
owaioman: posts big blind $0.25
Zanshin99: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [8s 6d]
mdntokr: folds
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: folds
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: folds
owaioman collected $0.20 from pot
owaioman: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.20 | Rake $0
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JimiRecall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: suckerpoint (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Tygran37 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: owaioman (big blind) collected ($0.20)
Seat 9: mdntokr folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Again I'm stats-less, and I also haven't played 25nl in quite a while, but stealing is very, very, very profitable. Not only for it's direct value but for it's implicit value, ie the image it gives you. I noticed you're playing like 9/5 this session and I hope those aren't your overall stats now.

I know at the lower stakes players are much less likely to both give you respect for steals but also to actually notice you (and give you more action later because of it, etc), but the effect is still there and the direct value you gain from stealing is well worth it.

Like I said earlier, I tried to record these hands in the PT replayer (which didn't work out, stupid mic), and one thing I noticed is that you're extremely tight! Way tighter than I remember...anyways that's something that should be changed imo.

PokerStars Game #15726469421: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:15:16 (ET)
Table 'Penthesilea' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 ($15.60 in chips)
Seat 3: JimiRecall ($29.85 in chips)
Seat 5: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: Tygran37 ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 8: owaioman ($40.85 in chips)
Seat 9: mdntokr ($22.40 in chips)
owaioman: posts small blind $0.10
mdntokr: posts big blind $0.25
Zanshin99: sits out
jackie198201: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Qc Ts]
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: folds
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: folds
owaioman: calls $0.15
mdntokr: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kc 5c Kd]
owaioman: checks
mdntokr: checks
*** TURN *** [Kc 5c Kd] [3h]
owaioman: bets $0.50
mdntokr: folds
owaioman collected $0.50 from pot
owaioman: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.50 | Rake $0
Board [Kc 5c Kd 3h]
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JimiRecall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Tygran37 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: owaioman (small blind) collected ($0.50)
Seat 9: mdntokr (big blind) folded on the Turn

Steal!

PokerStars Game #15726496960: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:16:56 (ET)
Table 'Abundantia' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Sticklersaz ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Zanshin99 ($22.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Tygran37 ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 7: willz01 ($13.25 in chips)
Seat 8: SAPPER1 ($22.15 in chips)
Seat 9: xxxxyxxxx ($32.90 in chips)
Tygran37: posts small blind $0.10
Cyrano700 said, "just unreal tonight"
blueberry: is sitting out
blueberry leaves the table
Cyrano700 has returned
ltkansas: is sitting out
willz01: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Ah Jd]
ltkansas leaves the table
SAPPER1: folds
xxxxyxxxx: folds
Sticklersaz: folds
Zanshin99: folds
Tygran37: raises $0.50 to $0.75
willz01: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [5c 3s 6c]
Tygran37: bets $1
willz01: calls $1
*** TURN *** [5c 3s 6c] [8h]
Tygran37: checks
willz01: bets $1.75
Tygran37: folds
willz01 collected $3.35 from pot
xxxxyxxxx is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.50 | Rake $0.15
Board [5c 3s 6c 8h]
Seat 1: Sticklersaz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Zanshin99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Tygran37 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: willz01 (big blind) collected ($3.35)
Seat 8: SAPPER1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: xxxxyxxxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Pretty bad flop for you, but definitely worth the c-bet. After the call there's really nothing to do but ch-f. I double barrel most J+ cards on the turn, but with those types of connected cards dropping I'm almost always ch-folding unless I have some incredible read and can either double barrel or ch-r.

PokerStars Game #15726514153: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:17:59 (ET)
Table 'Penthesilea' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 ($24 in chips)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 ($15.60 in chips)
Seat 3: JimiRecall ($29.85 in chips)
Seat 5: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: Tygran37 ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 8: owaioman ($41.90 in chips)
Seat 9: mdntokr ($22.05 in chips)
BARRETO_06: posts small blind $0.10
yzf600r222: posts big blind $0.25
Zanshin99: sits out
jackie198201: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Jc Ad]
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: raises $0.50 to $0.75
owaioman: folds
mdntokr: calls $0.75
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: folds
*** FLOP *** [Td 5c Tc]
Tygran37: checks
mdntokr: checks
*** TURN *** [Td 5c Tc] [Kc]
Tygran37: checks
mdntokr: checks
*** RIVER *** [Td 5c Tc Kc] [7d]
Tygran37: checks
mdntokr: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tygran37: shows [Jc Ad] (a pair of Tens)
mdntokr: shows [3d 3h] (two pair, Tens and Threes)
mdntokr collected $1.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.85 | Rake $0.05
Board [Td 5c Tc Kc 7d]
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: yzf600r222 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: JimiRecall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Tygran37 showed [Jc Ad] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: owaioman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mdntokr (button) showed [3d 3h] and won ($1.80) with two pair, Tens and Threes

This hand should have gone raise-bet-bet. That flop is great for a c-bet and you can continue the pressure by betting the scary K turn to scare out a lot of smaller pairs and floats.

PokerStars Game #15726539472: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:19:32 (ET)
Table 'Autonoma' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: 00Govan00 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 2: JimiRecall ($52.85 in chips)
Seat 3: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Sohlkind ($70.65 in chips)
Seat 5: BNA Act ($10.40 in chips)
Seat 6: EAbrams1113 ($13.85 in chips)
Seat 7: mulligen ($15.10 in chips)
Seat 8: paul reed72 ($8.10 in chips)
Seat 9: Tygran37 ($27.25 in chips)
paul reed72: posts small blind $0.10
Tygran37: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Ac Ah]
00Govan00: raises $0.50 to $0.75
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Sohlkind: folds
BNA Act: raises $0.75 to $1.50
EAbrams1113: folds
mulligen: folds
paul reed72: folds
Tygran37: raises $2 to $3.50
00Govan00: calls $2.75
BNA Act: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [9d 7h As]
Tygran37: checks
00Govan00: checks
BNA Act: bets $6.90 and is all-in
Tygran37: calls $6.90
00Govan00: folds
*** TURN *** [9d 7h As] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [9d 7h As 7d] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tygran37: shows [Ac Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Sevens)
BNA Act: mucks hand
Tygran37 collected $23.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24.40 | Rake $1.15
Board [9d 7h As 7d 5d]
Seat 1: 00Govan00 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: JimiRecall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Sohlkind folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BNA Act mucked [Jc Ks]
Seat 6: EAbrams1113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mulligen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: paul reed72 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Tygran37 (big blind) showed [Ac Ah] and won ($23.25) with a full house, Aces full of Sevens

Seems to be another recurring thing - reraise more preflop! You want full value with these hands so raise it up to $5.50 or so.
 
ChuckTs

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PokerStars Game #15726564053: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:21:01 (ET)
Table 'Penthesilea' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 ($15.60 in chips)
Seat 3: JimiRecall ($29.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Zanshin99 ($15 in chips)
Seat 5: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: Tygran37 ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: owaioman ($41.90 in chips)
Seat 9: mdntokr ($23.10 in chips)
JimiRecall: posts small blind $0.10
Zanshin99: posts big blind $0.25
jackie198201: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Ac Js]
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: folds
owaioman: folds
owaioman leaves the table
mdntokr: folds
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: calls $0.25
JimiRecall: calls $0.15
Zanshin99: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c 5d Ts]
JimiRecall: checks
Zanshin99: checks
yzf600r222: checks
*** TURN *** [7c 5d Ts] 6♣
JimiRecall: checks
BNA Act joins the table at seat #8
Zanshin99: checks
yzf600r222: bets $0.25
JimiRecall: folds
Zanshin99: folds
yzf600r222 collected $0.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.75 | Rake $0
Board [7c 5d Ts 6c]
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 (button) collected ($0.75)
Seat 3: JimiRecall (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Zanshin99 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Tygran37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: owaioman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mdntokr folded before Flop (didn't bet)

A limp is fine too. I raise ATs+, AJ+ and KQs+ UTG+1 and earlier now at 100nl as a default, but at the lower stakes where you get less respect you should be tightening up a little. Again limping is fine since you rarely get the positional raisers as you do in 50nl+.

PokerStars Game #15726662141: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:27:06 (ET)
Table 'Carolina' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: scottiet33 ($18.10 in chips)
Seat 2: suckerpoint ($33.35 in chips)
Seat 3: phanthem ($14.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Tygran37 ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 5: jcnighttrain ($35 in chips)
Seat 6: turquoise ($12.40 in chips)
Seat 7: spoiled9 ($14.75 in chips)
Seat 9: JoeBooth ($55.75 in chips)
jcnighttrain: posts small blind $0.10
turquoise: posts big blind $0.25
jackie198201: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Kc Ad]
spoiled9: folds
JoeBooth: folds
scottiet33: raises $1.25 to $1.50
suckerpoint: folds
phanthem: calls $1.50
Tygran37: raises $3.50 to $5
jcnighttrain: folds
jcnighttrain is sitting out
turquoise: folds
scottiet33: calls $3.50
phanthem: calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qs 4s]
scottiet33: bets $13.10 and is all-in
phanthem: folds
Tygran37: folds
scottiet33 collected $14.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.35 | Rake $0.75
Board [Jd Qs 4s]
Seat 1: scottiet33 collected ($14.60)
Seat 2: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: phanthem folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Tygran37 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: jcnighttrain (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: turquoise (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: spoiled9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JoeBooth folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Good pf, though maybe a little more with the additional caller. Postflop, without reads, a fold is the play I think. Getting like 2.2:1 isn't quite enough as our gutshot and overcards are tainted.

PokerStars Game #15726712889: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:30:18 (ET)
Table 'Abundantia' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Loac33170 ($20.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Zanshin99 ($20.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Cyrano700 ($21.65 in chips)
Seat 4: Tygran37 ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Uhnihilator ($8.25 in chips)
Seat 7: willz01 ($13.25 in chips)
Seat 8: SAPPER1 ($20.45 in chips)
Cyrano700: posts small blind $0.10
Tygran37: posts big blind $0.25
PiS.psm: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [8h 6h]
Uhnihilator: folds
willz01: folds
SAPPER1: folds
Loac33170: calls $0.25
Zanshin99: folds
Cyrano700: folds
Tygran37: checks
*** FLOP *** [7d 8c 2s]
Tygran37: checks
Loac33170: bets $0.50
Tygran37: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [7d 8c 2s] [Jc]
Tygran37: checks
Loac33170: bets $1
Tygran37: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [7d 8c 2s Jc] [3h]
Tygran37: checks
Loac33170: bets $2
Tygran37: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Loac33170: shows [8s 7c] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
Tygran37: mucks hand
Loac33170 collected $7.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.60 | Rake $0.35
Board [7d 8c 2s Jc 3h]
Seat 1: Loac33170 showed [8s 7c] and won ($7.25) with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 2: Zanshin99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Cyrano700 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Tygran37 (big blind) mucked [8h 6h]
Seat 5: Uhnihilator folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: willz01 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SAPPER1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Flop is ok, a little too fancy. After the ch-c, the turn ch-c is fine with reads (ie if he's not an absolute nit), but there are very few players who will triple barrel with a worse hand than yours on the river there.

PokerStars Game #15726724213: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:31:01 (ET)
Table 'Carolina' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: scottiet33 ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 2: suckerpoint ($33.35 in chips)
Seat 3: phanthem ($9.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Tygran37 ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: turquoise ($15.25 in chips)
Seat 7: spoiled9 ($14.65 in chips)
Seat 8: jackie198201 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 9: JoeBooth ($53 in chips)
jackie198201: posts small blind $0.10
JoeBooth: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Jh Ks]
scottiet33: calls $0.25
suckerpoint: folds
phanthem: folds
Tygran37: folds
turquoise: folds
spoiled9: calls $0.25
jackie198201: folds
JoeBooth: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c 2d Js]
JoeBooth: checks
scottiet33: checks
spoiled9: checks
*** TURN *** [3c 2d Js] [9s]
JoeBooth: checks
scottiet33: checks
spoiled9: checks
*** RIVER *** [3c 2d Js 9s] [9d]
JoeBooth: bets $2.50
scottiet33: folds
spoiled9: folds
JoeBooth collected $0.85 from pot
JoeBooth: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.85 | Rake $0
Board [3c 2d Js 9s 9d]
Seat 1: scottiet33 folded on the River
Seat 2: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: phanthem folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Tygran37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: turquoise folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: spoiled9 (button) folded on the River
Seat 8: jackie198201 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: JoeBooth (big blind) collected ($0.85)

Most of the time I'm folding this pf, but if I feel I can get enough respect from the remaining players behind me and can outplay the limper/am ahead of the limpers range then I'll go ahead and raise to isolate him. Otherwise a limp is a little weak but not terrible.

PokerStars Game #15726736155: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:31:46 (ET)
Table 'Autonoma' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: 00Govan00 ($25.05 in chips)
Seat 2: JimiRecall ($52.35 in chips)
Seat 3: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Sohlkind ($68 in chips)
Seat 5: beatsone ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 7: mulligen ($18.75 in chips)
Seat 8: paul reed72 ($8.55 in chips)
Seat 9: Tygran37 ($40 in chips)
00Govan00: posts small blind $0.10
JimiRecall: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Tc Kh]
suckerpoint: folds
Sohlkind: folds
beatsone: folds
mulligen: calls $0.25
paul reed72: folds
Tygran37: folds
00Govan00: raises $0.25 to $0.50
JimiRecall: calls $0.25
mulligen: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [4d Ah 9d]
00Govan00: checks
JimiRecall: bets $0.75
mulligen: calls $0.75
00Govan00: folds
*** TURN *** [4d Ah 9d] [Jc]
JimiRecall: checks
mulligen: bets $1
JimiRecall: folds
mulligen collected $2.90 from pot
mulligen: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3 | Rake $0.10
Board [4d Ah 9d Jc]
Seat 1: 00Govan00 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: JimiRecall (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Sohlkind folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: beatsone folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mulligen collected ($2.90)
Seat 8: paul reed72 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tygran37 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Try raising with position with these types of hands. The value of your hand matters very little, your position a LOT. 3bb+1bb per limper.

PokerStars Game #15726749830: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:32:33 (ET)
Table 'Penthesilea' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: yzf600r222 ($18.45 in chips)
Seat 3: JimiRecall ($27.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Zanshin99 ($14.40 in chips)
Seat 5: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: jackie198201 ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Tygran37 ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 8: BNA Act ($17.40 in chips)
Seat 9: mdntokr ($21.25 in chips)
Zanshin99: posts small blind $0.10
suckerpoint: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Ts Tc]
jackie198201: raises $0.75 to $1
BARRETO_06 has returned
Tygran37: calls $1
BNA Act: folds
mdntokr: folds
yzf600r222: folds
JimiRecall: folds
Zanshin99: folds
suckerpoint: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h Js Qd]
jackie198201: bets $2
Tygran37: folds
jackie198201 collected $2.25 from pot
jackie198201: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.35 | Rake $0.10
Board [4h Js Qd]
Seat 2: yzf600r222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JimiRecall (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Zanshin99 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: suckerpoint (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: jackie198201 collected ($2.25)
Seat 7: Tygran37 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: BNA Act folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mdntokr folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Pretty standard. There are a few types of opponents I'm 3-betting against, but usually a call is best. That flop sucks, and we muck :)

PokerStars Game #15726781899: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:34:29 (ET)
Table 'Antares' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Ronfar3 ($29.15 in chips)
Seat 2: PatMicMac ($14.50 in chips)
Seat 3: JTCelica ($36.75 in chips)
Seat 4: garrymdp ($13.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Tygran37 ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 8: MackeyLoo ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 9: conforth ($5 in chips)
MackeyLoo: posts small blind $0.10
conforth: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [5c 6c]
Ronfar3: raises $0.75 to $1
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: calls $1
garrymdp: folds
Tygran37: folds
MackeyLoo: folds
conforth: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc As 7c]
Ronfar3: bets $1.50
JTCelica: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [Kc As 7c] [2s]
Ronfar3: checks
JTCelica: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kc As 7c 2s] [2c]
Ronfar3: checks
JTCelica: bets $3
Ronfar3: folds
JTCelica collected $5.10 from pot
JTCelica: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.35 | Rake $0.25
Board [Kc As 7c 2s 2c]
Seat 1: Ronfar3 folded on the River
Seat 2: PatMicMac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JTCelica collected ($5.10)
Seat 4: garrymdp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tygran37 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: MackeyLoo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: conforth (big blind) folded before Flop

Call with these hands if the conditions are right (position, bad players, small likelyhood of getting squeezed). These are the monster-making hands and these are great spots to get in cheap. This is a little loose here, but I'm usually calling it if my opponents are bad enough.

PokerStars Game #15726805594: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:35:56 (ET)
Table 'Penthesilea' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 ($18.45 in chips)
Seat 3: JimiRecall ($27.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Zanshin99 ($14.30 in chips)
Seat 5: suckerpoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: jackie198201 ($26.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Tygran37 ($23.40 in chips)
Seat 8: BNA Act ($17.40 in chips)
Seat 9: mdntokr ($21.25 in chips)
Tygran37: posts small blind $0.10
BNA Act: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [9c 9s]
mdntokr: folds
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: folds
JimiRecall: folds
Zanshin99: folds
suckerpoint: folds
jackie198201: folds
Tygran37: calls $0.15
BNA Act: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc Kh 7d]
Tygran37: checks
BNA Act: checks
*** TURN *** [Jc Kh 7d] [Jh]
Tygran37: checks
BNA Act: bets $0.50
mdntokr leaves the table
Tygran37: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [Jc Kh 7d Jh] [Ks]
Tygran37: checks
BNA Act: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tygran37: shows [9c 9s] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
BNA Act: shows [Qh 3d] (two pair, Kings and Jacks - Queen kicker)
BNA Act collected $1.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.50 | Rake $0.05
Board [Jc Kh 7d Jh Ks]
Seat 1: BARRETO_06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: yzf600r222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JimiRecall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Zanshin99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jackie198201 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Tygran37 (small blind) showed [9c 9s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 8: BNA Act (big blind) showed [Qh 3d] and won ($1.45)

Raise pf! I can't see a situation where limping would be good. It's not strong enough to limp-raise against most opponents and is obviously vulnerable...

PokerStars Game #15726829783: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:37:27 (ET)
Table 'Antares' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Ronfar3 ($26.55 in chips)
Seat 2: PatMicMac ($14.15 in chips)
Seat 3: JTCelica ($40.05 in chips)
Seat 4: garrymdp ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Tygran37 ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 8: MackeyLoo ($16.75 in chips)
garrymdp: posts small blind $0.10
Tygran37: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [8s Ac]
MackeyLoo: folds
Ronfar3: folds
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: folds
garrymdp: calls $0.15
Tygran37: checks
*** FLOP *** [7s 4c Ks]
garrymdp: bets $1
Tygran37: folds
Zset joins the table at seat #9
garrymdp collected $0.50 from pot
garrymdp: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.50 | Rake $0
Board [7s 4c Ks]
Seat 1: Ronfar3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PatMicMac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JTCelica (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: garrymdp (small blind) collected ($0.50)
Seat 5: Tygran37 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: MackeyLoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Raise pf! All the time! Open limps from the SB are so rarely a 'good' hand. Raisey daisy.

PokerStars Game #15726865446: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:39:40 (ET)
Table 'Antares' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Ronfar3 ($26.55 in chips)
Seat 2: PatMicMac ($14.15 in chips)
Seat 3: JTCelica ($40.40 in chips)
Seat 4: garrymdp ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Tygran37 ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: MackeyLoo ($16.40 in chips)
Seat 9: Zset ($6.35 in chips)
Zset: posts small blind $0.10
Ronfar3: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Td Ah]
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: calls $0.25
garrymdp: folds
Tygran37: calls $0.25
MackeyLoo: folds
Zset: folds
Ronfar3: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jh 2c]
Ronfar3: checks
JTCelica: bets $0.75
Tygran37: folds
Ronfar3: folds
JTCelica collected $0.85 from pot
JTCelica: doesn't show hand
PatMicMac is disconnected
PatMicMac is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.85 | Rake $0
Board [Ks Jh 2c]
Seat 1: Ronfar3 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: PatMicMac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JTCelica collected ($0.85)
Seat 4: garrymdp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tygran37 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: MackeyLoo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Zset (small blind) folded before Flop

Raise pf! Especially with position.

PokerStars Game #15726869430: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:39:55 (ET)
Table 'Carolina' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: scottiet33 ($41.60 in chips)
Seat 2: suckerpoint ($32.50 in chips)
Seat 3: phanthem ($27.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Tygran37 ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 7: spoiled9 ($14.05 in chips)
Seat 8: jackie198201 ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 9: JoeBooth ($17.60 in chips)
JoeBooth: posts small blind $0.10
scottiet33: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [5h Jh]
suckerpoint: folds
phanthem: calls $0.25
Tygran37: folds
spoiled9: folds
jackie198201: folds
JoeBooth: raises $17.35 to $17.60 and is all-in
scottiet33: folds
phanthem: calls $17.35
*** FLOP *** [6c Kd 7h]
*** TURN *** [6c Kd 7h] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [6c Kd 7h 5c] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JoeBooth: shows [Ah 6h] (a pair of Sixes)
phanthem: shows [9d 9s] (a pair of Nines)
phanthem collected $33.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $35.45 | Rake $1.75
Board [6c Kd 7h 5c Ts]
Seat 1: scottiet33 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: suckerpoint folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: phanthem showed [9d 9s] and won ($33.70) with a pair of Nines
Seat 4: Tygran37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: spoiled9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jackie198201 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JoeBooth (small blind) showed [Ah 6h] and lost with a pair of Sixes

Yummy.


PokerStars Game #15726908843: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/04 - 00:42:24 (ET)
Table 'Antares' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Ronfar3 ($26.20 in chips)
Seat 2: PatMicMac ($12.40 in chips)
Seat 3: JTCelica ($48.40 in chips)
Seat 4: garrymdp ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Tygran37 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 8: MackeyLoo ($16.40 in chips)
PatMicMac: posts small blind $0.10
JTCelica: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [Jc Jh]
garrymdp: folds
Tygran37: calls $0.25
MackeyLoo: folds
Ronfar3: folds
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6c Qd]
JTCelica: bets $0.75
Tygran37: calls $0.75
*** TURN *** [Qc 6c Qd] [Ad]
Zset leaves the table
JTCelica: checks
Tygran37: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6c Qd Ad] [As]
JTCelica: checks
Tygran37: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JTCelica: shows [5c 5h] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Tygran37: shows [Jc Jh] (two pair, Aces and Queens - Jack kicker)
Tygran37 collected $2 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.10 | Rake $0.10
Board [Qc 6c Qd Ad As]
Seat 1: Ronfar3 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PatMicMac (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: JTCelica (big blind) showed [5c 5h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 4: garrymdp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tygran37 showed [Jc Jh] and won ($2) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 8: MackeyLoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Need I say...anything at all?
Hope this was reads-based trying to trap a chronic open pusher or something.

Summary:
-Steal more
-Raise with position more
-Raise more (size-wise) preflop
-Try experimenting. Do things that you normally wouldn't do and see how they work out (like squeezing, or raising 46s utg, or 3-betting light).

My hockey coach once said "the only way to improve is to push yourself past your comfort level" and I think it applies to more than hockey. You're playing way too tight right now and way too passive as well.
 
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Excellent read. Nice analysis. I'm going to try and apply some of the concepts myself.
 
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Nice comments Chuck.


Question Tygan; did you feel in this session that you were playing unusually tight, or is this your regular game? I ask because sometimes I just feel like I'm playing tigher than usual and it can be tough to get freed out of that.
 
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Been taking a lot of beats lately Tygran? Seems like your playing not to lose much rather than to win. Very tight and passive is a bad combo. When I start playing like this I try to play a few SnGs rather than rings. Nothing like some real good short-handed aggression to get you back into the right frame of mind and you don't have to risk much of your BR to do it.
 
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I know it's unsolicited, so pardon any faux pas, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents.
I tried my best not to look at ChuckT's comments.
Also, I play the $25 6-max, which is more aggressive, so I might be a bit biased toward aggression.
Any criticism on my comments would be enlightening as well so please post any disagreements and your reasoning behind them.



Dealt to Tygran37 [7s 7c]
mdntokr: folds
turquoise: calls $0.25
VVonTonMan: folds
JimiRecall: checks
maico360: calls $0.25
suckerpoint: folds
k3ys3r: folds
Tygran37: calls $0.15
owaioman: checks
*** FLOP *** [6s Kd 7h]
Tygran37: bets $0.50

This seems weak to me. 7/7 would be hand #10 in Hellmuth's top ten hands. You probably have the best pre-flop, but won't post-flop, so chase out the riff-raff. With two limpers, I'd do the average bet plus two BB's ($1.50).
With $1 in the pot and someone probably with the King I'd raise 3/4 the pot to $.75 instead of 50% of the pot.
After that, stuff seems fine to me. You just got burned by someone who was priced in to draw for his double belly buster. He could have easily played that way with K/9.


Dealt to Tygran37 [Ks Ad]
Ronfar3: calls $0.25
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: folds
garrymdp: folds
Tygran37: raises $0.50 to $0.75
puzzlemode: folds
Motiv8tor: folds
bhurak147: folds
Ronfar3: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6d 3s 9c]
Ronfar3: checks
Tygran37: bets $1.50

Again, someone bet so you want to raise the standard plus one BB. To me, $1 is standard so raise to $1.25. You have a good hand *and* position. Make him pay to play. He'd call that extra $.50 with anything that he'd limp with, and that gives him a chance to hit something dangerous/tricky.


Dealt to Tygran37 [Qc Qs]
dar79 leaves the table
Sohlkind: folds
BNA Act: raises $0.75 to $1
EAbrams1113: folds
mulligen: folds
paul reed72: folds
Tygran37: raises $1.50 to $2.50
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
BNA Act: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Jc 4s 3s]
BNA Act: checks
00Govan00 joins the table at seat #1
Tygran37: bets $4
BNA Act: folds
Tygran37 collected $5.10 from pot

There's $1.30 in the pot at this point. He's put in $1, so I'd make him double that to play, IE, betting $3. Now it'll cost him $2 at a $4+ pot.
Betting 4/5 the pot on the flop was OK with suited connectors on the board.


Dealt to Tygran37 [5d 4d]
BNA Act: calls $0.25
EAbrams1113: folds
mulligen: calls $0.25
paul reed72: folds
Tygran37: folds

With two limpers I'd go ahead and limp with suited connectors. Chances are you'll get another couple limpers in the pot. If someone raises to $.75, everyone will (and should) call. I'd bail if raised $1 though.


Dealt to Tygran37 [Ks Td]
k3ys3r leaves the table
owaioman: raises $0.25 to $0.50
mdntokr: folds
JustR82 leaves the table
BARRETO_06: folds
Zanshin99 joins the table at seat #4
yzf600r222: folds
jackie198201 joins the table at seat #6
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: folds
owaioman collected $0.60 from pot

Owaioman's raise is weak. A min raise from UTG? why would someone do that? Is he really tight (which all the folding indicates) or just weak? I'm guessing he had 5/5.
It costs you $.25 to win $.60. Even with bad position that's worth a call with K/T.
Chances are you'll both miss the flop and you'll take the pot when you make a continuation bet and he fears some overcard.

Dealt to Tygran37 [8s 6d]
mdntokr: folds
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: folds
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: folds

A agree with the fold in the SB. No need to steal here. If you've folded the previous two SB's, then go agead and take a stab at it. Personally I bet $.75 (instead of $1) whenever I'm SB and am betting at an uncontested pot.


Dealt to Tygran37 [Qc Ts]
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: folds
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: folds
owaioman: calls $0.15
mdntokr: checks

Most of the time I'd fold Q/To on the button. But the table has been really passive, and you just folded the SB, so the BB is going to give me a little more credit for having a hand. I'd raise to $1. If you're called you're still probably 40% to win... more when you factor in the advantage of position. And you're going to take the pot uncontested 2/3 of the time.



Dealt to Tygran37 [Ah Jd]
ltkansas leaves the table
SAPPER1: folds
xxxxyxxxx: folds
Sticklersaz: folds
Zanshin99: folds
Tygran37: raises $0.50 to $0.75
willz01: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [5c 3s 6c]
Tygran37: bets $1
willz01: calls $1
*** TURN *** [5c 3s 6c] 8♥
Tygran37: checks
willz01: bets $1.75
Tygran37: folds
willz01 collected $3.35 from pot

That's exactly how I'd have played it.



Dealt to Tygran37 [Jc Ad]
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: raises $0.50 to $0.75
owaioman: folds
mdntokr: calls $0.75
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: folds
*** FLOP *** [Td 5c Tc]
Tygran37: checks
mdntokr: checks
*** TURN *** [Td 5c Tc] K♣
Tygran37: checks
mdntokr: checks
*** RIVER *** [Td 5c Tc Kc] 7♦
Tygran37: checks
mdntokr: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tygran37: shows [Jc Ad] (a pair of Tens)
mdntokr: shows [3d 3h] (two pair, Tens and Threes)

Again, I'd have raised to $1 instead of $.75. A/J in the cutoff is a good. I'd have made a continuation bet on the flop as well. And I definatly would have bet when that scary King hit the turn.



Dealt to Tygran37 [Ac Ah]
00Govan00: raises $0.50 to $0.75
JimiRecall: folds
suckerpoint: folds
Sohlkind: folds
BNA Act: raises $0.75 to $1.50
EAbrams1113: folds
mulligen: folds
paul reed72: folds
Tygran37: raises $2 to $3.50
00Govan00: calls $2.75
BNA Act: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [9d 7h As]
Tygran37: checks
00Govan00: checks
BNA Act: bets $6.90 and is all-in
Tygran37: calls $6.90
00Govan00: folds
*** TURN *** [9d 7h As] 7♦
*** RIVER *** [9d 7h As 7d] 5♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tygran37: shows [Ac Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Sevens)
BNA Act: mucks hand [Jc Ks]

Back when you had Q/Q I recommended doubling his bet. A/A is quite a bit better than Q/Q, so you want to keep the guy in the pot and extract more value.
I like your re-raise.
On the flop I like the check with top set and two people left to act. I assume you were looking to check/raise.
And calling the all-in with the nuts is an acceptable play as well. :) If it were me, I'd go into the tank trying to make it look liek a relucant call, on the off chance that 00Govan00 calls. (Note, in a live game I'd never do that as it'd seem like slowrolling and I'd deserve a good o'l punch in the face).

Dealt to Tygran37 [Ac Js]
suckerpoint: folds
Tygran37: folds

Second to act with A/Jo? I'd let the previous several hands dictate my action. If I'd been folding lately I'd limp. If I've been active, I'll fold. If the table was aggressive it'd be an easy fold, but this doesn't seem to be the case.
(Note: I don't think half the people at the table will notice if you've been quiet lately, but the people who don't notice aren't usually the ones you have to look out for)



Dealt to Tygran37 [Kc Ad]
spoiled9: folds
JoeBooth: folds
scottiet33: raises $1.25 to $1.50
suckerpoint: folds
phanthem: calls $1.50
Tygran37: raises $3.50 to $5
jcnighttrain: folds
jcnighttrain is sitting out
turquoise: folds
scottiet33: calls $3.50
phanthem: calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qs 4s]
scottiet33: bets $13.10 and is all-in
phanthem: folds
Tygran37: folds
scottiet33 collected $14.60 from pot

Where did this scottiet33 guy come from? I assume he bought in for $20 and is losing, or $15 and is winning? A history would be nice.
He raises to $1.25 pre-flop into an uncontested pot. Why not just $1? I immediatly put him on a large pair. Maybe a T/T or J/J that wants to scare off K/Q-like hands, or maybe A/A or K/K.that wants to get paid. In this case I'd be looking to just call. If I was out of position I'd raise.
You chose to raise, which is still a valid path, however with Phanthem in the pot I think you should have raised more to isolate Scottiet33. Scottiet33 has $16.60 left and there's $3 in the pot (18% of what what he has left), so if you get all-in against Scottie33 at this point you're +EV against anything but A/A and K/K. However, if he calls most of the time he'll have those A/A or K/K. People don't stack off with Q/Q as often as I'd like them to. (To second guess myself, he has $18.10 in chips which would make him a bit more likely to stack off with Q/Q.)
Anyway, I'm not happy shoving against an unknown in this situation.
Folding when he shoved on the flop was the right move. I don't think anybody would disagree with that. Any card that helps us could give him two pair. Or if he had that J/J or Q/Q, we're in bad shape as well. We're only drawing to a gut-shot at that point.



Dealt to Tygran37 [8h 6h]
Uhnihilator: folds
willz01: folds
SAPPER1: folds
Loac33170: calls $0.25
Zanshin99: folds
Cyrano700: folds
Tygran37: checks
*** FLOP *** [7d 8c 2s]
Tygran37: checks
Loac33170: bets $0.50
Tygran37: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [7d 8c 2s] J♣
Tygran37: checks
Loac33170: bets $1
Tygran37: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [7d 8c 2s Jc] 3♥
Tygran37: checks
Loac33170: bets $2
Tygran37: calls $2

Good pre-flop check.
I'd have lead out on the flop. Top pair is pretty good against one player. I'd fold to a re-raise though.
On the turn I'd try to take the pot again, hoping the J scared him.
On the river, he's not going to bet again unless he has you beat. Check/fold.
(Note: My way, you'd have lost more money)
...Okay... I just peeked at ChuckT's analysis for this hand and like it better.


Dealt to Tygran37 [Jh Ks]
scottiet33: calls $0.25
suckerpoint: folds
phanthem: folds
Tygran37: folds
turquoise: folds
spoiled9: calls $0.25
jackie198201: folds
JoeBooth: checks

I'd fold there as well. In the cutoff it'd be tempting, and I'd definately play it on the button.
Good play.
As soon as I saw that only 1/4 of the remaining people VP$IP, I'd have thought "Doh! I wish I opened for $1!" And I'd keep in mind how tight they were in case this situation came up again later.



Dealt to Tygran37 [Tc Kh]
suckerpoint: folds
Sohlkind: folds
beatsone: folds
mulligen: calls $0.25
paul reed72: folds
Tygran37: folds
00Govan00: raises $0.25 to $0.50
JimiRecall: calls $0.25
mulligen: calls $0.25

Here's a similiar situation to the K/J, but this time you're on the button. Re-raise to $1.25 to chase off weak-Mulligen and take the blinds.
If we're called, I wouldn't c-bet with that Ace on the board, and would fold any normal raise.


Dealt to Tygran37 [Ts Tc]
jackie198201: raises $0.75 to $1
BARRETO_06 has returned
Tygran37: calls $1
BNA Act: folds
mdntokr: folds
yzf600r222: folds
JimiRecall: folds
Zanshin99: folds
suckerpoint: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h Js Qd]
jackie198201: bets $2
Tygran37: folds
jackie198201 collected $2.25 from pot
jackie198201: doesn't show hand

Looks good. Good call, and good fold.
You're not beating much post-flop so bail while it's cheap.

DSeat 1: Ronfar3 ($29.15 in chips)
Seat 2: PatMicMac ($14.50 in chips)
Seat 3: JTCelica ($36.75 in chips)
Seat 4: garrymdp ($13.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Tygran37 ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 8: MackeyLoo ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 9: conforth ($5 in chips)
MackeyLoo: posts small blind $0.10
conforth: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tygran37 [5c 6c]
Ronfar3: raises $0.75 to $1
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: calls $1
garrymdp: folds
Tygran37: folds
MackeyLoo: folds
conforth: folds

I actually listed the stacks in this one because it's a bigger factor this hand than in most of the others.
5/6 suited is good to limp with when two big stacks are already in the pot. I'd limp in and hope that others do the same.
Low suited connectors like that are easy to get away from, and they can turn into hidden monsters.
If Ron and JT has small stacks I'd just fold.



Dealt to Tygran37 [9c 9s]
mdntokr: folds
BARRETO_06: folds
yzf600r222: folds
JimiRecall: folds
Zanshin99: folds
suckerpoint: folds
jackie198201: folds
Tygran37: calls $0.15
BNA Act: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc Kh 7d]
Tygran37: checks
BNA Act: checks
*** TURN *** [Jc Kh 7d] J♥
Tygran37: checks
BNA Act: bets $0.50
mdntokr leaves the table
Tygran37: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [Jc Kh 7d Jh] K♠
Tygran37: checks
BNA Act: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tygran37: shows [9c 9s] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
BNA Act: shows [Qh 3d] (two pair, Kings and Jacks - Queen kicker)
BNA Act collected $1.45 from pot

Any pair is good to raise with in an uncontested pot when you are the SB. I always raise to $.75 in this situation, but $1 is fine as well.
On the flop, make a continuation bet. If you encounter any resistance after that then I'd check/fold.



Dealt to Tygran37 [8s Ac]
MackeyLoo: folds
Ronfar3: folds
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: folds
garrymdp: calls $0.15
Tygran37: checks
*** FLOP *** [7s 4c Ks]
garrymdp: bets $1
Tygran37: folds

If Garry had an ace or better he'd probably have raised pre-flop. You probably have the best hand at this point, so raise him when he limps and try to take his quarter.
If he bets the flop though, I'd fold. Someone who limps in this position isn't as likely to lead out with nothing.


Dealt to Tygran37 [Td Ah]
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: calls $0.25
garrymdp: folds
Tygran37: calls $0.25
MackeyLoo: folds
Zset: folds
Ronfar3: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jh 2c]
Ronfar3: checks
JTCelica: bets $0.75
Tygran37: folds
Ronfar3: folds
JTCelica collected $0.85 from pot

A/T with one limper in the cutoff is probably the best hand, so I'd raise to $1.25. Hopefully you'll take the pot right there, or just isolate yourself with JTCelica.
The flop is bad for you and I'd fold when JTCelica put a bet in, which is what you did, so good.



Dealt to Tygran37 [5h Jh]
suckerpoint: folds
phanthem: calls $0.25
Tygran37: folds
spoiled9: folds
jackie198201: folds
JoeBooth: raises $17.35 to $17.60 and is all-in
scottiet33: folds
phanthem: calls $17.35
*** FLOP *** [6c Kd 7h]
*** TURN *** [6c Kd 7h] 5♣
*** RIVER *** [6c Kd 7h 5c] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JoeBooth: shows [Ah 6h] (a pair of Sixes)
phanthem: shows [9d 9s] (a pair of Nines)

JoeBooth and Phanthem seem like fun people to hang around with so I'd really enjoy spending some quality poker time with those chaps.
Now get in the boat you two, so I can club you over the head and sell you to Gorton's.


Dealt to Tygran37 [Jc Jh]
garrymdp: folds
Tygran37: calls $0.25
MackeyLoo: folds
Ronfar3: folds
PatMicMac: folds
JTCelica: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6c Qd]
JTCelica: bets $0.75
Tygran37: calls $0.75
*** TURN *** [Qc 6c Qd] A♦
Zset leaves the table
JTCelica: checks
Tygran37: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6c Qd Ad] A♠
JTCelica: checks
Tygran37: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JTCelica: shows [5c 5h] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Tygran37: shows [Jc Jh] (two pair, Aces and Queens - Jack kicker)
Tygran37 collected $2 from pot


The $.25 limp is weak. Even with 5/5 I'd be raising to disguise my drawing hands, and J/J is a little better than a drawing hand (it's a "don't draw out on me" hand). Bet $1. Out of position like that I might even bet more. You want to chase out the A/x, K/x, Q/x hands that limp in and then beat your pair.
I'm OK with everything after the flop though.


Summary: Be more aggressive pre-flop.
 
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Very good analysis by both of you.

And calling the all-in with the nuts is an acceptable play as well. :) If it were me, I'd go into the tank trying to make it look liek a relucant call, on the off chance that 00Govan00 calls. (Note, in a live game I'd never do that as it'd seem like slowrolling and I'd deserve a good o'l punch in the face).
I have to disagree with you on this, Penguin. If you're closing the action, pretending to tank with the nuts is obviously slow-rolling. But if you're hoping to get an overcall from someone left to act behind you, I would never consider that a slowroll. Even more-so in live play. If I were the third person and you insta-called the all in, it would make me think twice about staying in the pot.
 
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