6max Limit Bet River here?

Marklar

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okay so i've had a 450BB upswing this month followed by a 100 bb downswing this weekend so I feel my game is suffering a bit due to lack of confidence ( I know my aggression factor has dropped... cause or effect?)

Anyway basically I turn a straight and the betting gets capped then the river pairs and Im on the button and check behind... Bet or check here? No reads, only been at the table like 5 minutes.

POKERSTARS GAME #11748112058: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/08/28 - 21:44:30 (ET)
Table 'Arabella' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: langostafrio ($8.45 in chips)
Seat 2: _Marklar_22 ($12.35 in chips)
Seat 3: noodles9999 ($4.70 in chips)
Seat 4: 2hi__327 ($15.30 in chips)
noodles9999: posts small blind $0.10
2hi__327: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to _Marklar_22 [Qh Ac]
langostafrio: raises $0.25 to $0.50
_Marklar_22: calls $0.50
noodles9999: calls $0.40
2hi__327: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Kc Ts 8d]
noodles9999: checks
2hi__327: checks
langostafrio: bets $0.25
_Marklar_22: raises $0.25 to $0.50
noodles9999: calls $0.50
2hi__327: folds
langostafrio: folds
*** TURN *** [Kc Ts 8d] [Jh]
noodles9999: checks
_Marklar_22: bets $0.50
noodles9999: raises $0.50 to $1
_Marklar_22: raises $0.50 to $1.50
noodles9999: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
_Marklar_22: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [Kc Ts 8d Jh] [Kd]
noodles9999: checks
_Marklar_22: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
noodles9999: shows [7h 9c] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
_Marklar_22: shows [Qh Ac] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
_Marklar_22 collected $6.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.25 | Rake $0.35
Board [Kc Ts 8d Jh Kd]
Seat 1: langostafrio folded on the Flop
Seat 2: _Marklar_22 (button) showed [Qh Ac] and won ($6.90) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 3: noodles9999 (small blind) showed [7h 9c] and lost with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 4: 2hi__327 (big blind) folded on the Flop
 
pigpen02

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No flush. The only thing that can beat you is a full house. You really think somebody is going to check-raise a full house on the river? I would have bet here. :icon_porc
 
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i'm no limit expert but i'm pretty sure u should 3b pf and definitely bet that river for value
 
joosebuck

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yeah i think we bet that river. the times 2p/trips(since top pair rivered)/lower straight(3 straights possible there) call or even raise make it worthwhile.
 
Marklar

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i'm no limit expert but i'm pretty sure u should 3b pf and definitely bet that river for value

Normally I do 3bet with AQ in that position but if i recall correctly, it was a misclick. Worked out though, since I doubt 79 would have called a 3bet :)

Appreciate the comments.
 
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alan1983

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Im a bit dumb when it comes to limit, but why dyou raise the flop?

Is it standard or just being aggressive?
 
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Im a bit dumb when it comes to limit, but why dyou raise the flop?

Is it standard or just being aggressive?
I was so agreeing with the idea of raising preflop and betting the river that I completely missed the possibility of disagreeing with the flop raise.

Now, part of it is because the flop plays very differently if he 3-bets preflop. But as played, raising the flop isn't going to do much for us except risk getting 3-bet by a better hand. It's not a bad play for a free card on the turn I suppose, but I just feel that it's better to get the extra padding of inducing a few more calls on the flop.
 
Marklar

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I raised the flop to attempt to get a free card on the turn. Good or bad? Is this more effective in a heads up situation?

As far as better hands 3betting me, I feel that most of the time only AA or AK would three bet that board. QQ or lower would be two scared to three bet and a set or two pair most likely would smooth call and pop me on the turn for an extra bet, which they can't do if i check.
 
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