50NL KK reraised on flop

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It's as rare as FP posting a Tourney hand but here we go a Rex Ring hand!!

He's folded to any reraise preflop, hence my call preflop. Not saying it's the right move, just my thinking. My image is probably a tiny bit loose preflop and I've been betting a lot.

Villain is 20%VPIP 5.1% PFR 4.75 Aggression over 100 hands.

pokerstars Game #10923122759: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/07/13 - 19:14:17 (ET)
Table 'Imprinetta' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: FadyFriday ($4.35 in chips)
Seat 2: O'DoyleRules ($44.25 in chips)
Seat 3: thunder62 ($46.40 in chips)
Seat 4: SalomXwave9 ($105.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Irexes ($71.55 in chips)
Seat 6: K'zUpQ'zDoWn ($61.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Lietus ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 8: HippieAlbino ($57.55 in chips)
Seat 9: tenbob ($56.45 in chips)
Lietus: posts small blind $0.25
HippieAlbino: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Irexes [Kh Ks]
tenbob: folds
FadyFriday: folds
O'DoyleRules: folds
thunder62: folds
SalomXwave9: raises $1 to $1.50
Irexes: calls $1.50
K'zUpQ'zDoWn: folds
Lietus: folds
HippieAlbino: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s 6d Jd]
SalomXwave9: bets $2
Irexes: raises $5 to $7
SalomXwave9: raises $5 to $12

????
 
Emperor IX

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It's as rare as FP posting a Tourney hand but here we go a Rex Ring hand!!

He's folded to any reraise preflop, hence my call preflop. Not saying it's the right move, just my thinking. My image is probably a tiny bit loose preflop and I've been betting a lot.

Villain is 20%VPIP 5.1% PFR 4.75 Aggression over 100 hands.

PokerStars Game #10923122759: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/07/13 - 19:14:17 (ET)
Table 'Imprinetta' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: FadyFriday ($4.35 in chips)
Seat 2: O'DoyleRules ($44.25 in chips)
Seat 3: thunder62 ($46.40 in chips)
Seat 4: SalomXwave9 ($105.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Irexes ($71.55 in chips)
Seat 6: K'zUpQ'zDoWn ($61.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Lietus ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 8: HippieAlbino ($57.55 in chips)
Seat 9: tenbob ($56.45 in chips)
Lietus: posts small blind $0.25
HippieAlbino: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Irexes [Kh Ks]
tenbob: folds
FadyFriday: folds
O'DoyleRules: folds
thunder62: folds
SalomXwave9: raises $1 to $1.50
Irexes: calls $1.50 (Your reasoning is good enough for me)
K'zUpQ'zDoWn: folds
Lietus: folds
HippieAlbino: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s 6d Jd]
SalomXwave9: bets $2 (I don't know what the aggression number means, but the VPIP is telling me he's got a jack with a good kicker, or a set)
Irexes: raises $5 to $7
SalomXwave9: raises $5 to $12

????

You have him beat at this point, me thinks. It's up to you if you're willing to go broke with this hand though. Either call it down or push.
 
Lo-Dog

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hmmm, warning half drunk reply. You only called he has no idea you have KK

AJ, push.
 
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I agree, push, but not too hard, let him think you also hit the jack and hope for the re-raise.
 
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Or he's got JJ and thinks you've got AJ or 77/66? But if you've got a loose image it could very well be AJ thinking you're trying to push him off the hand.

I think if it's TB instead of Rex he'd push now 'cause he likes to put the pressure on. Rex likes to pressure, but not so hard. He likes to reel them in more slowly so I'd expect a call.
 
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Interesting folks.

This guy had shown so little aggression that I felt he was way ahead of AJ here. tbh I'm struggling to put him on anything other than AA a set or the nut flush draw (and I don't think he's raising low Axs preflop)....

Anyhoo

I don't have the HH but

I called (after much deliberation)

Turn: Qh

He pushed for his remaining $27 (which was about the size of the pot).
 
heatfan03

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shouldnt have called preflop. If you had raised you could know where you stand.
 
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Hmm, certainly looks like a fold on the turn.

Better strategy would be to 3-bet him with a wider range so he can't put you on AA or KK whenever you do it, and obviously do it with AA and KK as well.
 
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Blech, this is horrible, let's take a stab at giving a range by the turn (I think calling the flop is correct).

AA-JJ
77-66
AdKd-AdQd (all these should be obvious)
AJ (this might be contentious but it's folded to villain in LMP, even most nits will raise sometimes here. the small flop c-bet is designed to look weak, he sees your raise and thinks "hey, my fake weak bet worked!" and minreraises - which tbh doesn't make a lot of sense whatever he has considering the draw-heavy nature of the board, but I suppose it does set him up for a pot-sized push on the turn if called, heh. also, just because an overcard has fallen doesn't necessarily stop him from shoving the turn with AJ - the range he has you on probably won't include a lot of Qx hands)

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.289% 38.77% 01.52% 563 22.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 59.711% 58.20% 01.52% 845 22.00 { JJ+, 77-66, AdKd, AdQd, AJs, AJo }

Getting 2-1 we can call (although we really don't like doing so).

Taking AJ out means we're crushed and it's an easy fold.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.662% 10.28% 02.38% 95 22.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 87.338% 84.96% 02.38% 785 22.00 { JJ+, 77-66, AdKd, AdQd }

I suppose what I'm getting at is that the crux of this hand is how plausible you think it is that he could have AJ here. It's definitely not a 100% (or close) certainty that a nitty player will play AJ like this, which leads me to prefer folding.
 
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I dont know why you are scared here... he might be sitting on AJ, or diamonds.

You've got the flop you wanted... NO ACES!!!!.... So, its time to push, and push hard.

I also think you should have reraised him on the flop to see where you are

Best regards
 
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Blech, this is horrible, let's take a stab at giving a range by the turn (I think calling the flop is correct).

AA-JJ
77-66
AdKd-AdQd (all these should be obvious)
AJ (this might be contentious but it's folded to villain in LMP, even most nits will raise sometimes here. the small flop c-bet is designed to look weak, he sees your raise and thinks "hey, my fake weak bet worked!" and minreraises - which tbh doesn't make a lot of sense whatever he has considering the draw-heavy nature of the board, but I suppose it does set him up for a pot-sized push on the turn if called, heh. also, just because an overcard has fallen doesn't necessarily stop him from shoving the turn with AJ - the range he has you on probably won't include a lot of Qx hands)

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.289% 38.77% 01.52% 563 22.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 59.711% 58.20% 01.52% 845 22.00 { JJ+, 77-66, AdKd, AdQd, AJs, AJo }

Getting 2-1 we can call (although we really don't like doing so).

Taking AJ out means we're crushed and it's an easy fold.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.662% 10.28% 02.38% 95 22.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 87.338% 84.96% 02.38% 785 22.00 { JJ+, 77-66, AdKd, AdQd }

I suppose what I'm getting at is that the crux of this hand is how plausible you think it is that he could have AJ here. It's definitely not a 100% (or close) certainty that a nitty player will play AJ like this, which leads me to prefer folding.

^^this. I'd rather be the raiser, not the caller.
 
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I think a call here has to be based on a pretty strong indication he has AJ and I'm not convinced he plays it that strong. Entirely possible of course.


Anyway....

.... I folded, so we'll never know :)
 
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