50NL 9Ts

Schatzdog

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What do you guys think of this play? I had Villain pegged as a little weak tight while I had won some pots without showing down.

pokerstars Game #9939423509: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/16 -
06:48:20 (ET)
Table 'Meta' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: Larry4747 ($24.45 in chips)
Seat 3: ZOOLOOZ ($51.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Digger83 ($9.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Blut3ngel ($50 in chips)
Seat 6: oli1980 ($49.40 in chips)
Seat 7: Passi_de ($10.30 in chips)
Seat 8: Bluetones ($49 in chips)
Seat 9: gabesaid ($54.85 in chips)
Passi_de: posts small blind $0.25
Bluetones: posts big blind $0.50
guenni49: sits out
Blut3ngel: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bluetones [Tc 9c]
gabesaid: folds
Larry4747: raises $1 to $1.50
ZOOLOOZ: folds
Digger83: folds
Blut3ngel: folds
oli1980: folds
Passi_de: folds
Bluetones: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [4s Td 6d]
Bluetones: checks
Larry4747: bets $3
Bluetones: calls $3
*** TURN *** [4s Td 6d] [Ad]
Bluetones: checks
Larry4747: bets $4
Bluetones: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [4s Td 6d Ad] [Qc]
Bluetones: bets $12
Larry4747: folds
Bluetones collected $16.90 from pot
Bluetones: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.75 | Rake $0.85
Board [4s Td 6d Ad Qc]
Seat 2: Larry4747 folded on the River
Seat 3: ZOOLOOZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Digger83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Blut3ngel folded before Flop
Seat 6: oli1980 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Passi_de (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Bluetones (big blind) collected ($16.90)
Seat 9: gabesaid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
robwhufc

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What do you guys think of this play?
Not thrilled to be honest. You're gambling $16 ($12 + his other $4 which he'd re-raise and you'd be compelled to call) that he hasn't got an ace, which his pre-flop raise and post flop call suggested he could have. If he called post flop on a flush draw, your pair of 10's are ahead anyway. Long term, this play is going to be a loser in my opinion.
 
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Edit - opponent was betting not calling - like it even less, why no post flop bet?
 
Schatzdog

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Thanks for that guys. I don't really like this play either and thought I got a bit lucky with it. Looking at his stack size now this isn't a good play at all really. Anyway, here's what I was thinking.

I put him on a big pair here like QQ/JJ or AK/AQ.

I basically played it like a draw though so I didn't lead out because I wanted to represent the made flush at the end. His betting on a 10 high board confirmed for me that he had an overpair, although AK/AQ could C-bet here, so the initial call is for pot control. The Ad was a great card for me I thought. At this point I decided to play like I'd made the flush so the flat call there is what I'd do normally if I made a big hand. The bet on the end is designed as a value bet bluff representing the flush.

Anyway, I don't think I'll be making this play too often in the future.
 
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Schatz i dont think such a play needs to work a lot of times for it to be a "good one". you may have felt it applied to the situation then and went for it.

If you think hed fold an ace to that bet then its obviously a good move. And you chose the right player to do it against. It may not work against many but doesnt mean it wasnt a good move.

However its the uncertainty as to what he has that made us think twice about the hand.
 
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Cheers Alan,

Good feedback. I've been thinking about this hand and told a few people about it. I tagged this guy early on as the one to make a move on and I was correct in that. As you put it situationally I felt this wasn't too bad a play.
 
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