$5 NLHE 6-max: Nut flush draw in 4 bet pot vs flop shove

[GreenDaddy1]

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 19/13/2

This is 6 max SNAP.

97 hands on this 19/13/2 villain. Had seen him 3 bet AKs and KTs before this hand. Couldn't recall if he had sized this big on those occasions. Obviously it is a big 3 bet but people do weird stuff at the micros so was unsure to read much into that.

I'm sure calling the 3 Bet is an option some take. I like 4 betting AK even in this mostly tight fast fold pool, so that is what I do and we go to a pretty bloated pot on the flop. Perhaps given his massive 3 bet, a call would have given more post flop wiggle room here.

The flop gives me the nut flush draw but misses a lot of both our ranges, besides a few outliers. I'll range bet 3 bet pots with about 30-40% pretty often unless I'm trying to exploit someone, and that is what I do. I think I might have also been trying to control the price I was paying to draw to the nut flush. Looking at the hand now I don't like it so much. I think I'm potentially folding out a lot of hands I am beating, and the big pairs that make up a lot of his range are never folding on this flop. AK maybe folds, which I suppose would be a win.

So, first question, anyone think a check/call line is better? What if we check and villain jams?

In any case, he jams vs my flop bet. 9 outs to the Nut flush. 3 Aces and 3 Kings also to come, although he likely holds blockers to one or both, and neither are sure to win me the pot, so best to ignore them. At a quick calc 4x9 = 36% I hit the nut flush by the river and the pot odds are (very roughly) about 25% to call his shove? Just call and ride the variance train, right? This is definitely an area I need to get more comfortable with in my game.






Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 53.8 BB
SB: 174.8 BB
BB: 110.6 BB
Hero (UTG): 162 BB
MP: 84.4 BB
CO: 106.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ K♦

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 13.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 28.8 BB, CO calls 15.4 BB

Flop: (59 BB, 2 players) 6♦ 8♦ 9♣
Hero bets 22.4 BB, CO raises to 77.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 55.2 BB

Spoiler

Turn: (214.2 BB, 2 players) 7♦

River: (214.2 BB, 2 players) 3♦

Hero shows A♦ K♦ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 12%, Flop 37%, Turn 100%)
CO shows A♥ A♣ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 88%, Flop 63%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 201.6 BB

 

[blueskies]

As played easy all in on the flop.
The other dude shoulda jammed preflop though.

 

[zuker]

I dont like 4betting AK because in most times you have to go allin on flop (how about missing boards?). additionally your 4bet pretty small - 45 would be better.
As played - push flop and pray for flash.

 

[mktpppr]

P: easy flat vs 3bet.

Flat > 4bet jam > sized 4bet > fold.

Especially true for:
1. OOP,
2. vs a 19/13 guy,
3. in micros,
4. in fast-fold format.

I don't understand our 4bet sizing of 2.15x. Are we bluffing or raising for value?

I think we're bluffing without knowing it. Maybe we do (comments), but then why are we turning AKs into a bluff?

Anyway, we priced villain in to flat IP vs our 4bet.

F: as played, I don't know what to do OOP with SPR of 1.32. I guess not folding in any way is fine.

 

[GreenDaddy1]

Yeah I'm definitely not bluffing with AK, it is too strong generally speaking. Happy to see flops.

I 4 bet about 2.2 generally. 3x if deep. I guess I need to think about why I do this and when to adjust, and how.

I think you're correct that I can make adjustments at fast fold microstakes to what I'm doing in these spots, especially against this sort of nitty reg type.

 

[John A]

Flat pre... that's a large 3-bet by him. There's no real good 4-betting size for you w/ your stacks, so much better to just flat. As played vs a nit, best to just jam the flop as you might get him to fold splits. If he wasn't a nit, it would be better to x/jam the flop in case he decided to bet with AQ or worse. That's not happening vs a nit, he's going to be nutted pre-flop to QQ+/AK.

 

[oakthyago]

As played easy all in on the flop.
The other dude shoulda jammed preflop though.

in resume this is it

but 4bet AKs is a option you could had only call the 3bet because you are just afraid of a AA, KK and other hands can fold your 4bet and you EV decrease

 

[KKillerss]

3 bet seems better, unless you expected some fold equity, that is unlikely. Against AAs you had 12 equity, KK+ 23. As played and nit, dont expect any less
After flop raised to 37... as played pre flop, check/shove