$5 NLHE 6-max: Fold with full house against huge aggresion?

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Thoughts? Honestly, I felt good with this fold, I 'smelled' AA or 99, but it's really hard to tell. In addition, this opponent is extremely aggressive, but in the past hands I played against him he never showed THAT level of aggresion.

Villain: 24/20/6,4 (387 hands)

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UTG: $6.50 (130 bb)
MP: $8.43 (169 bb)
CO: $6.44 (129 bb)
BU (Hero): $11.59 (232 bb)
SB: $6.39 (128 bb)
BB: $5.05 (101 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 5 5
UTG raises to $0.15, 2 players fold, Hero calls $0.15, 2 players fold

Flop: ($0.37) A 5 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($0.97) T (2 players)
UTG bets $0.93, Hero calls $0.93

River: ($2.83) T (2 players)
UTG bets $5.12 (all-in), BU (Hero) folds

Total pot: $2.83 (Rake: $0.12)
UTG wins $2.71
 
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P: fine.

F: easy raise/stack off, especially vs 24/20 player, and especially with flush draw threat.

T: as played, easy jam vs another 100% pot barrel.

R: as played, tank crying call. We don't like it, but we can't fold now.

Villain's UTG opening range has a lot of Ax. He could just be barrelling with top pair.

I'm not sure about river, because I won't find myself in this spot.
 
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if you 'smelled' AA or 99, why dont you fold flop?
 
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Difficult situation, it is easy to lose the stack. I think you played in the best way.
From the course of the game on the river he has: AA; 99; A, 10; 1010; AK.
Fold is the best solution.
 
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Can't really call that turn without being willing to stack off the river.

I'm not folding versus a person with those stacks and as played. You showed no aggression at all and your hand is severely under-represented. It's not a fist bump call but its definitely a call.

Villain can have AA, 99, sure but a 3x UTG raise from a loose player probably has a lot of other broadway cards in it and sometimes even something like JT of hearts.
 
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Thoughts? Honestly, I felt good with this fold, I 'smelled' AA or 99, but it's really hard to tell. In addition, this opponent is extremely aggressive, but in the past hands I played against him he never showed THAT level of aggresion.

Villain: 24/20/6,4 (387 hands)

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PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
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UTG: $6.50 (130 bb)
MP: $8.43 (169 bb)
CO: $6.44 (129 bb)
BU (Hero): $11.59 (232 bb)
SB: $6.39 (128 bb)
BB: $5.05 (101 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 5 5
UTG raises to $0.15, 2 players fold, Hero calls $0.15, 2 players fold

Flop: ($0.37) A 5 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($0.97) T (2 players)
UTG bets $0.93, Hero calls $0.93

River: ($2.83) T (2 players)
UTG bets $5.12 (all-in), BU (Hero) folds

Total pot: $2.83 (Rake: $0.12)
UTG wins $2.71

Thank you for posting

When refining Villain ranges we have to consider what we are representing as our range by the actions we are taking. We then think about V actions as well

On the flop V bets pot why would they do this with AA or 99? How often would they?

We call -that action suggests our range is draws and weak made hands so the V will bet with AK AQ AJ on turn when they think we have that range.

On turn again V bets a size to get a skilled player to fold most of their range why would they if they had AA or 99 or now TT? This sizing should fold flush draws why would they want us to fold when they can make a full house when we hit our flush.

We call this again suggests we have weak made hands and draws.

River- V shoves 2x pot why do they think we will call with Ax if they have full houses?

So the V range could be AK AQ AJ thinking we have missed draw or weak Ax and will call but the sizing is terrible for getting weak Ax to call.
Could this also be KQhh trying to get folds when they missed or KhTh etc

As played we cannot narrow the V's range any more than AA TT 99 AT T9 for better hands and AK AQ AJ KhQh KhJh KhTh QhJh QhTh JhTh some V may also shove KK QQ JJ here expecting Ax to fold.

Unless we can use data from other hands we took notes on or from a HUD to refine the V's range we have to call here as played based on the above range.

Hope this helps
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I'm not folding bottom set HU with effective stacks of 130bb if I'm only losing oversets.
 
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I would not fold a boat here.i would go All in after the turn bet to protect against fish or a gut shot Broadway straight. I would expect to win most of the time. Major aggression wouldnotderer me
 
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On account of your passive play in this hand, I think the opponent has you on a weak ace or a missed flush draw a good amount of the time which explains the his river bet. I'm calling here 100% of the time. Sometimes you lose which can't be avoided.

I'll echo others here by saying I'm raising that flop 50% of the time and that turn 100% of the time. He's going to continue with any Ace or a flush draw often enough.
 
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