$5 NLHE 6-max: 3bet monotone underpair

[teh_colonel_saigon]

I think I like betting out here a bit more, but on this texture we are super far behind and never get paid off if we improve.

But is check/folding that bad? At worst he has a semi-bluff here. (unless he bets 66, 88 for protection)

Yatahay Network - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 128.4 BB
UTG: 94.6 BB
MP: 121.6 BB
CO: 69 BB
BTN: 98.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9:heart: 9:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.6 BB, BTN calls 7.2 BB

Flop: (19.6 BB, 2 players) T:heart: J:heart: 7:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 9.8 BB, fold

BTN wins 18.8 BB

 

[eetenor]

I think I like betting out here a bit more, but on this texture we are super far behind and never get paid off if we improve.

But is check/folding that bad? At worst he has a semi-bluff here. (unless he bets 66, 88 for protection)

Yatahay Network - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 128.4 BB
UTG: 94.6 BB
MP: 121.6 BB
CO: 69 BB
BTN: 98.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♥ 9♦

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.6 BB, BTN calls 7.2 BB

Flop: (19.6 BB, 2 players) T♥ J♥ 7♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 9.8 BB, fold

BTN wins 18.8 BB

Thank U 4 posting

This is a hand that you want to use your range strategy not just your specific hand.

So what is your range here?

What would you do with most of your range?

Does 99h fall in to the betting range or the check call range?
Why do you think 99 is behind?

If it is behind.
Does the 99 become a semi bluff lead or check raise semi bluff?
Or float?
Do your V fold to flop check raises at all?
Will they fold 1 pair on later streets?
Will they check turns with any frequency?

Do they fold to river overbets?

Just some things to reflect on

Hope this helps

 

[teh_colonel_saigon]

Going through my hands to look at C-betting. This one's not a 3-bet pot, but maybe not the best place to cbet.
Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 111.5 BB
BTN: 120 BB
SB: 120 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 198 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:club: 9:heart:

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) A:heart: 4:spade: Q:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, fold

Hero wins 8 BB

In this hand V is 26/20 with a FCB of 69

Flop we have SDV, but we are behind a lot of V's range. If V is folding out his QJ, QT etc. I think it's worth it. Hands like JT KJ, KT actually still have a lot of equity against us... is it better to bet for protection here?

 

[gustav197poker]

Possibly an exploting fold, as you are dominated with better pairs and below 46% of larger flush scales. The call could also be justified due to the low price and the fact that we don't block any nut flush, but since it is NL5 we are backed due to our SPR for folding.
Greetings.

 

[teh_colonel_saigon]

Thank U 4 posting

This is a hand that you want to use your range strategy not just your specific hand.

So what is your range here?

What would you do with most of your range?

Does 99h fall in to the betting range or the check call range?
Why do you think 99 is behind?

If it is behind.
Does the 99 become a semi bluff lead or check raise semi bluff?
Or float?
Do your V fold to flop check raises at all?
Will they fold 1 pair on later streets?
Will they check turns with any frequency?

Do they fold to river overbets?

Just some things to reflect on

Hope this helps

Haha, it is helpful, but it's hard to construct a range for a board like this oop. Most of my 3 betting range is betting, I'm betting with any heart overcard.

But V is calling/raising with any good heart too. Also with sets. I'm not sure if I want to take this hand 3 streets :frown:

So we bet and bet again?

 

[Aballinamion]

I think I like betting out here a bit more, but on this texture we are super far behind and never get paid off if we improve.

But is check/folding that bad? At worst he has a semi-bluff here. (unless he bets 66, 88 for protection)

Yatahay Network - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 128.4 BB
UTG: 94.6 BB
MP: 121.6 BB
CO: 69 BB
BTN: 98.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♥ 9♦

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.6 BB, BTN calls 7.2 BB

Flop: (19.6 BB, 2 players) T♥ J♥ 7♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 9.8 BB, fold

BTN wins 18.8 BB

Well, I would not be folding so fast OTF because we are drawing to the insane Straight Flush, so even if Villain displays a lot of flush draws here, or even the flush nuts with Ah, or even so sets like 77, or two pair like J7, JT, T7, we are goind pretty fine.
Awesome spot to be raising OTF for bluff, since we can (sometimes) display/represent TT+ here and all the suited aces.


Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa

 

[eetenor]

Haha, it is helpful, but it's hard to construct a range for a board like this oop. Most of my 3 betting range is betting, I'm betting with any heart overcard.

But V is calling/raising with any good heart too. Also with sets. I'm not sure if I want to take this hand 3 streets :frown:

So we bet and bet again?

Thank you for responding

You seem to be thinking only about running into strong hands. That is not the entire range V would bet.
We should be fine floating V if they have a set as we have the only flush draw and we are drawing to the straight flush Also if V has AxQh we are currently ahead and no ugly card on the turn causes us to stack off. So folding the flop to one bet should not be an option here as we green lighted our V to bet this flop with 66h for instance.

Unless this V would only bet nut hands no bluffs.

Hope this helps

 

[gustav197poker]

Thank you for responding

You seem to be thinking only about running into strong hands. That is not the entire range V would bet.
We should be fine floating V if they have a set as we have the only flush draw and we are drawing to the straight flush Also if V has AxQh we are currently ahead and no ugly card on the turn causes us to stack off. So folding the flop to one bet should not be an option here as we green lighted our V to bet this flop with 66h for instance.

Unless this V would only bet nut hands no bluffs.

Hope this helps

I totally agree. Here you can see a sure fold just with a nit that has no bluffs in its range. The information of hud also help for look this, always that tha sample be relevant.