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I am in HJ with 10 players and 2500 stack on the table. That night I recognize that I was very anxious.
$3000 NLHE Full Ring: Nl 2500 + deep 10/20 Full Ring
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$3000 NLHE Full Ring: Nl 2500 + deep 10/20 Full Ring
Cash games in casino.
I am in HJ with 10 players and 2500 stack on the table. That night I recognize that I was very anxious. When I bought chips it took more than 2 hours until I could enter to play. I was alone at a table and they finally called me when there was a place for me.
So this is one of the first hands I played in the night.
The advantage of all this is that I had a long time to observe the characteristics of the players at my table.
The player in the button is apparently a regular solid, who usually makes incredibly large starts. I've seen him open with 6 blinds. It has about 3000 in chips.
He probably takes advantage of the 3rd position player who is very passive. The same as the ninth position player. Coincidentally these last players are the leading chip. I think they should have more than 20,000 in chips each. There is an unlimited purchase of chips and these gentlemen do look fat (in stack).
As if that were not enough, another new man appears and begins to put a lot of chips to place next to me. (Does not participate in this hand in question)
In other words, I have an average stack over the rest of the players and 2 that surpass us by far. (After this hand are 3).
My opening is $ 65 from HJ whit KQoff; CO fold. BTN 3bet to $ 225. All fold. I call.
Boat: 450 (blinds are deducted from commission). 2 players in hand:
Flop: 6s 4c Kd
HJ: check; BTN Cbet 125. HJ call. He usually makes larger sizes, so I pay without much thought.
Initial boat: $ 700
HJ check; BTN raise 360.
While it takes me a few seconds to think, the villain becomes half maniac and begins to sing slowly. I even hear him talk to another and start making noise with the chips.
What is in that range? I finish thinking and make the call.
Initial boat: 1.4k
Ace of spades
HJ check; BTN raise 600. Bote 2k.
Without th.inking too much I fold.
I played well?
After the hand one of the fat men on the other side points to me and says smiling: On the fourth street you beat him!
It's a tough hand. One of the problems of playing KQo in a 3 bet pot is exactly this. Even if you hit your K, there are still a lot of hands that you're losing to.
The A is a terrible card for you on the river, but you have to call 600 into a pot of 2000, so you're getting 3.33:1 on your call. Given the villain's overall aggressiveness, getting those pot odds, I think the river could veer towards a call.
preflop: I think we can fold or we can call and proceed cautiously. I lean towards a call here.
flop: check call makes a lot of sense. given that he bet so small in a 3bet pot I might even check raise for value and protection vs certain player types, however in this situation you are new at the table, don't have a ton of information and check calling is more standard of a play.
turn: check calling again makes the most sense. as for your live reads....it can mean anything that he is singing and seeming happy....I would tend to disregard it but generally if I assign it any type of meaning I would think it means he has picked up some equity somehow. he has picked up a flush draw or straight draw or for some reason likes the card. it is much harder to carry on in a happy go lucky way when you are bluffing. also, we should consider that he will often shut down now with hands like TT-QQ.
River: this is a bad card, but maybe not as bad as it seems on the surface. if he had AK he was always beating you and this changes nothing. (in fact makes AK less likely due to card removal). if he had AA he was always ahead of you and this changes nothing (except makes AA less likely due to card removal). The only hands this Ace should really improve are AcXc that Cbet flop, and barrelled turn when it picked up some equity. I think due to the pot odds being offered I will "sigh" call here and expect to be shown KQ, KJ or K9 quite often. a little bit of Ax. plenty in his range beats us, but the pot odds are pretty enticing to make the call.
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I would fold preflop. KQ is a weak to play in that spot. Rest of them i just call it down. On river you don't have any better hand than KQ so just call it. If you fold that it means that you never call any bet on the river
Jacki nailed this one IMO. I disagree pre flop though. I don't think KQo is strong enough to flat the 3b OOP against described V who covers us and shows some aggro characteristics. We can't continue on enough flops and we expect an aggressive line from V. I would call with KQs and fold KQo here. We got one of the best flops and not a bad turn. I think we have to call this run out based on V description. If this was one of the passive Vs we could fold (pre and river) but it's not so since we didn't fold pre getting this price with this run out I think we are good often enough to at least break even calling river. The thing that gives me pause is the sizing change. But you have been watching the table, he has no reads on you so he could be sizing down for that reason while applying more pressure to regs. He could also be sizing down post flop because he has a hand like QQ/JJ and doesn't like the K. When we x/c down the A could be a scare card to both of us. At this level players should have more complete ranges instead of typical lower stakes games where players don't 3 bet wide enough and give up when the first over card hits.
I agree with Jacki and also with others.
KQoff blocks K-K; Q-Q; A-K; A-Q and in this board it surpasses average pockets like J-J and allows confrontation to combinations like 5c-9c or Ac-xc.
Being 3: 1 probably most would call in this case. I don't know if I played well or not. I don't know if I did well to think fast on the river and fold.