3 bad beats out of 5 hands

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sbshamrocks

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I really don't know how to explain any of this. I believe the bad beats were on hands 1,3, and 5. please tell me what i could've done better. rather long so please help.

*********** # 1 **************
pokerstars Game #15558046688: Tournament #78744006, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/02/26 - 00:31:49 (ET)
Table '78744006 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (495 in chips)
Seat 6: ranselp (5910 in chips)
Seat 7: thecoach29 (2340 in chips)
Seat 9: GTVegas (4755 in chips)
sbshamrocks: posts the ante 25
ranselp: posts the ante 25
thecoach29: posts the ante 25
GTVegas: posts the ante 25
sbshamrocks: posts small blind 100
ranselp: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sbshamrocks [Js Qd]
thecoach29: calls 200
GTVegas: calls 200
sbshamrocks: raises 270 to 470 and is all-in
ranselp: folds
thecoach29: calls 270
GTVegas: calls 270
*** FLOP *** [Qh 4c 5c]
thecoach29: checks
GTVegas: checks
*** TURN *** [Qh 4c 5c] [Jh]
thecoach29: checks
GTVegas: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qh 4c 5c Jh] [Th]
thecoach29: checks
GTVegas: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sbshamrocks: shows [Js Qd] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
thecoach29: mucks hand
GTVegas: shows [8s 9s] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
GTVegas collected 1710 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1710 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 4c 5c Jh Th]
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (small blind) showed [Js Qd] and lost with two
pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 6: ranselp (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: thecoach29 mucked [Ah 7s]
Seat 9: GTVegas (button) showed [8s 9s] and won (1710) with a straight,
Eight to Queen

*********** # 2 **************
PokerStars Game #15558043197: Tournament #78744006, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/02/26 - 00:31:35 (ET)
Table '78744006 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (320 in chips)
Seat 6: ranselp (5935 in chips)
Seat 7: thecoach29 (2365 in chips)
Seat 9: GTVegas (4880 in chips)
sbshamrocks: posts the ante 25
ranselp: posts the ante 25
thecoach29: posts the ante 25
GTVegas: posts the ante 25
GTVegas: posts small blind 100
sbshamrocks: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sbshamrocks [8c 4c]
ranselp: folds
thecoach29: folds
GTVegas: folds
sbshamrocks collected 300 from pot
sbshamrocks: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 300 | Rake 0
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (big blind) collected (300)
Seat 6: ranselp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: thecoach29 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: GTVegas (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 3 **************
PokerStars Game #15558034221: Tournament #78744006, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/02/26 - 00:31:01 (ET)
Table '78744006 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (2685 in chips)
Seat 6: ranselp (5960 in chips)
Seat 7: thecoach29 (2490 in chips)
Seat 9: GTVegas (2365 in chips)
sbshamrocks: posts the ante 25
ranselp: posts the ante 25
thecoach29: posts the ante 25
GTVegas: posts the ante 25
thecoach29: posts small blind 100
GTVegas: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sbshamrocks [2s 2h]
sbshamrocks: calls 200
ranselp: folds
thecoach29: folds
GTVegas: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 8h 7h]
GTVegas: checks
sbshamrocks: checks
*** TURN *** [2c 8h 7h] [8d]
GTVegas: checks
sbshamrocks: checks
*** RIVER *** [2c 8h 7h 8d] [Ts]
GTVegas: bets 600
sbshamrocks: raises 1860 to 2460 and is all-in
GTVegas: calls 1540 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sbshamrocks: shows [2s 2h] (a full house, Deuces full of Eights)
GTVegas: shows [7s 7c] (a full house, Sevens full of Eights)
GTVegas collected 4880 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4880 | Rake 0
Board [2c 8h 7h 8d Ts]
Seat 4: sbshamrocks showed [2s 2h] and lost with a full house, Deuces
full of Eights
Seat 6: ranselp (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: thecoach29 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: GTVegas (big blind) showed [7s 7c] and won (4880) with a full
house, Sevens full of Eights

*********** # 4 **************
PokerStars Game #15558029000: Tournament #78744006, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/02/26 - 00:30:41 (ET)
Table '78744006 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (2710 in chips)
Seat 6: ranselp (5685 in chips)
Seat 7: thecoach29 (2715 in chips)
Seat 9: GTVegas (2390 in chips)
sbshamrocks: posts the ante 25
ranselp: posts the ante 25
thecoach29: posts the ante 25
GTVegas: posts the ante 25
ranselp: posts small blind 100
thecoach29: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sbshamrocks [Qd 2d]
GTVegas: folds
sbshamrocks: folds
ranselp: calls 100
thecoach29: checks
*** FLOP *** [3h Kh 3s]
ranselp: bets 200
thecoach29: folds
ranselp collected 500 from pot
ranselp: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 500 | Rake 0
Board [3h Kh 3s]
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ranselp (small blind) collected (500)
Seat 7: thecoach29 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: GTVegas folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 5 **************
PokerStars Game #15558018331: Tournament #78744006, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/02/26 - 00:29:57 (ET)
Table '78744006 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (4935 in chips)
Seat 6: ranselp (3210 in chips)
Seat 7: thecoach29 (2940 in chips)
Seat 9: GTVegas (2415 in chips)
sbshamrocks: posts the ante 25
ranselp: posts the ante 25
thecoach29: posts the ante 25
GTVegas: posts the ante 25
sbshamrocks: posts small blind 100
ranselp: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sbshamrocks [9h Jc]
thecoach29: calls 200
GTVegas: folds
sbshamrocks: calls 100
ranselp: checks
*** FLOP *** [7d 3c Js]
sbshamrocks: checks
ranselp: checks
thecoach29: checks
*** TURN *** [7d 3c Js] [Jd]
sbshamrocks: checks
ranselp: checks
thecoach29: checks
*** RIVER *** [7d 3c Js Jd] [6s]
sbshamrocks: bets 1000
ranselp: raises 1000 to 2000
thecoach29: folds
sbshamrocks: calls 1000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ranselp: shows [3d 3h] (a full house, Threes full of Jacks)
sbshamrocks: mucks hand
ranselp collected 4700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4700 | Rake 0
Board [7d 3c Js Jd 6s]
Seat 4: sbshamrocks (small blind) mucked [9h Jc]
Seat 6: ranselp (big blind) showed [3d 3h] and won (4700) with a full
house, Threes full of Jacks
Seat 7: thecoach29 folded on the River
Seat 9: GTVegas (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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abinferno

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Although in the three hands you've posted here it wouldn't have made a difference, but you are waaaaaay too passive. Hand 1, nothing you could do. You had a little more than 2 big blinds, and two big cards, you have to push.

Hand 3, I would have bet the flop to make draws pay or get some value out of a possible top pair. At least bet half the pot or so. Flush draw and straight draw there, no point in slow playing so hard. Really, 4 handed, you should be raising with your pocket pair here, even though they're dueces. If you just call here, you're essentially giving away 200 when you miss your set. Someone is probably going to pair, and you're behind. Represent some strength preflop, then on a flop like that, you probably won't be believed when you do hit your hand. In this case, it didn't matter, set over set on the flop, 4 handed, you're going broke.

Hand 5, again way too passive. You completed from the small blind with a marginal hand. That was a prime opportunity to steal. Then, you actually hit the flop and check anyway? Are you trying to slow play top pair no kicker? If you bet the flop just maybe the set won't slow play and you'll be able to get off your top pair. Once the turn hits, you're going broke.

So, in summary: hand 1 - nothing to say, hand 3 - raise preflop, bet flop, set over set sucks oh well it happens, hand 5 - fold preflop or raise to steal, bet flop and fold to raise, turn card leaves you no choice. Keep in mind that in hand 3, you're going broke no matter how you play your set, but in the future, you need to change it up. No point in giving a draw heavy board a free card here. What are your normal tournament stats? Do you always play passively, or only when you get to the bubble?
 
Jagsti

Jagsti

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First of all this post belongs in the Tournament HA section. 1st hand is a bad beat b/c he hits runner runner to outdraw you. The thing is when you are the short stack and you go all in against the big stack then he literally can call with ATC.

The 3rd and 5th hands are not bad beats they are coolers. Not a lot you can do about coolers if your in the hand, whether you should be in the hand is debatable but hey.
 
BrentD22

BrentD22

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Many people when they have trips they check. This is the wrong thing to do. You should bet!

In my honest opinion there was only one semi-bad beat on those 3 hands. All of the others where just poker. Maybe coolers, but not bad beats.
 
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