[25NL 6max] Perfect Card to 3-Barrel?

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bw07507

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Okay, Im almost never 3-barreling at 25NL, but I think this is the perfect situation for it. Villain is slightly Loose Passive (27/6/1), but not a station by any means. Havent seen him go to showdown without atleast top pair.

I have been 25/22/inf but I doubt this type of villain has a HUD up.

OKERSTARS GAME #18034815458: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/06/09 - 23:00:08 (ET)
Table 'Bethgea III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: moche ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 2: shazaamsvan ($21.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Babak1982 ($5 in chips)
Seat 5: Muegge57 ($31.10 in chips)
Seat 6: bw07507 ($28.35 in chips)
moche: posts small blind $0.10
shazaamsvan: posts big blind $0.25
jbt1120: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bw07507 [Ac Qd]
Babak1982: folds
Muegge57: calls $0.25
bw07507: raises $0.95 to $1.20
moche: calls $1.10
shazaamsvan: folds
Muegge57: folds
*** FLOP *** [2s 2h Jc]
moche: checks
bw07507: bets $2.10
moche: calls $2.10
*** TURN *** [2s 2h Jc] [8d]
moche: checks
bw07507: bets $5
moche: calls $5
*** RIVER *** [2s 2h Jc 8d] [Kh]
moche: checks
bw07507: ?
 
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Triple barrels and big bluffs depend heavily on game flow and your history with the guy. In general this is exactly the type of card you want to triple barrel (we can fold out TT-99, 77-, AJ/QJ by repping AA/KK/AK/JJ here), but the fact that there aren't any draws out there means he'll always have at least one pair here, and that means that he'll be much more inclined to call. I'd be much happier barreling if there was a busted FD on board; that would make this trivially easy imo. I'm not too sure how often a 25nler can fold AJ or QJ here though - you say this guy isn't a station but his stats sure suggest it. Most guys at these stakes probably won't think about your range and how hard that king hits it, and will probably just think "TP on the flop and only one more bet on the river"

What's his WTSD and W$SD?
 
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I wouldn't even try a double barrel vs a person with these stats. Some of the calling station NL25 guys will just latch onto top pair and will be willing (but do not intend nor want to) to call off most of their stack to see SD. So as chuck said, look at WTSD and if it is high then i really would not bother trying. I don't really think W$SD will help that much, because if it is high it probably just means he has a good hand in this situation and if it is low well he would probably call you down with second pair which is no good either. I don't see him laying down a J to a river bet after calling flop/turn.
 
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I get suspicious when someone just calls on a paired board when there's no straight or flush draws. I guess 2's a pretty safe though.
He *probably* has a Q/J type hand. Hopefully not K/J.

To chase him off, you'd have to make a pretty big bet on the river (If he's smart, bet $16 instead of your remaining $20. Or if he's less of a thinker, a shove might work better). And I'm not sure the third barrel will work. People a lot of players are unaware of what cards you are representing, and will call you down.

Sure would suck if he had K/J.

Basically, I would *not* fire the third barrel unless I saw evidence that he could fold TPTK type hands. I'd cut my losses and lick my wounds.
 
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eww gross, I cant believe I didnt look at this. His WTSD is 40% and W$SD is 42%. Yea, obv not a guy we want to be 3-barreling here. I should really add more stats than the standard 4 to my HUD. Anyways I did shove and he folded. Im guessing he didnt even have the J.

Ive actually upped my AF a bit. My AF was only 1.5 during the first 35-40k hands of 6max and I really thought that was pretty low. Ive got it at 2.8 during my last 10K hands but Ive been running terrible lately so Im not sure which is actually going to be more profitable in the long run.
 
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My displayed HUD is:
hands, WTSD, W$SD
VP$IP, PFR, AF
ATS, Fold SB Steal, Fold BB Steal

I find the SD stats VERY important and I like using the ATS stat to target liberal stealers for resteals from the blinds.
 
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