This is a discussion on $25 NLHE Full Ring: How do I get away form this - AA vs AJs within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; Yatahay Network - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
CO: 100 BB
Hero (BTN): 111.92 BB
SB: 99 BB
BB: 160.36 BB
UTG: 105.6 BB
UTG+1: 43.16 BB
MP: 80.12 BB
An example of how I am struggling with loose opponents lately. I did not put AJs into his range because of my 4 bet preflop with him then calling oop. I suppose I could have gotten away form the hand on his turn 3-bet but at that point was getting 8:1 to call it off. thoughts?
You are not getting away from this. However your turn bet was to large. There was no need to bomb it and almost make it a 2 street hand, when its an extreme way ahead way behind situation. He cant even really have backdoor spades here, since you hold As, so there is no need to bet big to "charge draws". Bet around 25BB on the turn, and then get the rest in on the river. This is the best way to suck hands like QQ or KK, which should be most of his range, into stacking off. If he check-jam or donk bet the river, I am still calling it off.
I don't really like to play a pair of aces. You have the strongest hand preflop, ranging from 4-5BB to all-in and on the flop comes something like a straight, flush, or trips as in this case. You have a presentiment that something was wrong, but somehow you don't want to retreat. The only thing that comes to mind is that after a paired flop I would try to invest as little as possible. But this is in theory, but in practice, most often everything ends in complete collapse.
In a 4 bet pot, a single Jack shouldn't be in his range. But it was, and he actually had it. You could also have increased your 4 bet sizing to more like 23 BBs, which *may* have made him fold.
He's a bad player if he's putting in 18 BB pf with AJs, so stick around and get your money back.
If it were not for the size of the buy-in, I would have thought that the events take place in the freeroll. Most likely a 4-bet of 23BB would not have forced this player to fold. It's amazing how he didn't go all-in at all. I naively believed that maniacs are found only in freerolls. Looks like I was wrong!
re: Poker & $25 NLHE Full Ring: How do I get away form this - AA vs AJs
Poker is a game of investment, preflop you had the best hand and extracted value, that was ok. But he just called you which already put him out of a monster hand. Then the turn came with 2 jacks and jacks were certainly in his range with aj and jj and i think that in the flop was your mistake. Your lost too much value with the jacks a check to control the pot would be the best option in my opinion.