$25 NLHE 6-max: Multiway with AA on wet board facing donk bet and turn bet

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
SB ($26.09) [VPIP: 21.1% | PFR: 12.7% | AGG: 28.6% | hands: 169]
BB ($47.69) [VPIP: 44.2% | PFR: 10.9% | AGG: 39.8% | Flop Agg: 43.3% | Turn Agg: 34.4% | River Agg: 38.1% | 3-Bet: 8.5% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 41.1% | Hands: 158]
UTG ($25) [VPIP: 56.8% | PFR: 8.1% | AGG: 31.6% | Flop Agg: 35% | Turn Agg: 40% | River Agg: 12.5% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 54.2% | Hands: 38]
HERO ($60.50) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 21% | AGG: 33.7% | Flop Agg: 43.3% | Turn Agg: 28.3% | River Agg: 19% | 3-Bet: 5.7% | 4-Bet: 9.3% | Hands: 38902]
CO ($25.32) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 25.2% | Hands: 442]
BTN ($9.12) [VPIP: 36.4% | PFR: 8.9% | AGG: 19.1% | Hands: 221]

Dealt to Hero: A A

UTG Checks, HERO Raises To $0.95, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.70, UTG Calls $0.70

Hero SPR on Flop: [8.15 effective]
Flop ($2.95): 9 T 8
BB Checks, UTG Bets $2.79 (Rem. Stack: $21.26), HERO Calls $2.79 (Rem. Stack: $56.76), BB Calls $2.79 (Rem. Stack: $43.95)

Turn ($11.32): 9 T 8 5
BB Checks, UTG Bets $7.13 (Rem. Stack: $14.13), HERO ??

I admit, I got pretty lost on this hand. SB is a fish but I don't have a really good read on BB at all other than he's been kind of loose so far but 38 hands is nothing.

On the flop I'm putting BB on [JJ-77,AJs-A8s,K8s+,Q8s+,J7s+,T6s+,96s+,86s+,76s,AsQs,As7s,Ks7s,Qs7s,As6s,Ks6s,Qs6s,Js6s,As5s,Ks5s,Qs5s,Js5s,7s5s,6s5s,As4s,Ks4s,Qs4s,Js4s,6s4s,5s4s,As3s,Ks3s,Qs3s,As2s,Ks2s,Qs2s,AJo-ATo,KJo-KTo,QTo+,JTo,T8o+,98o,As9d,As9h,As9c,As8d,As8h,As8c]

I wasn't sure what the right thing to do on the flop was considering that SB is still left to act. I chose to call because I feel like raising is basically me overplaying my hand especially since both the BB and I have deeper stacks, even though it's possible I could still get called with TPTK, JJ, strong draws. Maybe I made a mistake here...
 
Collin Moshman

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To clarify, UTG posts the blind and then checks pre?

I know he's not the most aggro, but over close to 40 hands he's playing well over half of them. I think he's on a wide enough range here that we can be comfortable stacking off. Normally that would be with a turn jam, but we're deep enough effective with the big blind that I would just call here with the plan of calling it off against this player on most rivers.
 
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This is an absolutely terrible flop for AA, so I am going to disagree a little bit with Collin Moshman here. I am not folding on the flop, because I think, UTG can certainly be doing this full pot donk betting with a worse hand "for protection". But when BB also comes along for the ride, and we face another big turn bet, I prefer to give it up and let the two goofballs do, whatever they want to do :)
 
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Playing this cashgame buyin I prefer to fold, generally the players had more ability that the players from smaller buyins, In his hand I can put him in a range of cards that can play well the post flop like 88+, 89, 8T, 9T, 9J, JT.

There are no much hand that will donkbet here, I think that he will bet only value hands trying to avoid be beat for better hands, he can have two pairs or a set with afraid to be beat for a straight or a flush, maybe he can have a straight.

I don't think he will bet his draws, but it will depend about the reads and image table of he, the other player and your. Some players will bet JJ, QQ, KK and AA, but in general these players will 3bet or 4bet the preflop.
 
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I think UTG limped pre-flop. Against a station like this I would probably increase my 3-bet size to something like 1,25. They both seem to be passive station fish. I am more concerned about UTG than BB because even being a passive player he leads into 2 players. I will tend to put this kind of player on two pair or better hands who doesn't want to get outdrawn. So I would probably fold.
 
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UTG is playing like a terrible fish.

Posting UTG is just stupid, and then donking off is another red flag. If BB weren't along for the ride, I might stack off vs UTG just for being such a fish, but with BB in there too, I would try very hard to find a fold on the turn.
 
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To clarify, UTG posts the blind and then checks pre?

I know he's not the most aggro, but over close to 40 hands he's playing well over half of them. I think he's on a wide enough range here that we can be comfortable stacking off. Normally that would be with a turn jam, but we're deep enough effective with the big blind that I would just call here with the plan of calling it off against this player on most rivers.

Good catch looks like you're correct, I think I missed that while playing and thought he was the BB and the other guy was SB...

Regarding your stacking off comment, what are your thoughts on the BB?
 
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