200max medium pair vs maniac

joosebuck

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villian is like 79/23/2 over ~150 hands. recently taken down a lot of pots without showdown

pokerstars Game #11490158033: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/08/14 - 19:15:08 (ET)
Table 'Ilsebill II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: mbl62000 ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: bradster38 ($569.20 in chips)
Seat 3: iponnet ($261.05 in chips)
Seat 4: joosebucklol ($204 in chips)
Seat 5: famuber ($188.55 in chips)
Seat 6: DaEmbezzler ($430.90 in chips)
Seat 7: GIBraag ($37 in chips)
Seat 8: Timer76 ($71.40 in chips)
Seat 9: Virtucon ($113 in chips)
Timer76: posts small blind $1
Virtucon: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [Jh Qh]
mbl62000: folds
bradster38: folds
iponnet: calls $2
joosebucklol: calls $2 (normally dont do this so much, actually looking to get involved with the maniac to my left)
famuber: raises $10 to $12
DaEmbezzler: folds
GIBraag: folds
Timer76: folds
Virtucon: folds
iponnet: calls $10
joosebucklol: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [7d Ks Qc]
iponnet: checks
joosebucklol: checks
famuber: bets $18
iponnet: folds
joosebucklol: calls $18
*** TURN *** [7d Ks Qc] [Kc]
joosebucklol: checks
famuber: bets $16
joosebucklol: calls $16
*** RIVER *** [7d Ks Qc Kc] [3c]
joosebucklol: checks
famuber: bets $18
joosebucklol:
 
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If your willing to call the flop and turn, Id say you have to call this river. You're getting almost 7:1 to call.
 
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Wow, it really looks like he's taking you to value town.
 
joosebuck

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the river call is pretty obvious. im more looking for an assessment of the whole hand. do i raise the flop or turn?
 
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the river call is pretty obvious. im more looking for an assessment of the whole hand. do i raise the flop or turn?

lol, yea I was kind of wondering why u posted this hand, I thought it was a pretty obvious call on the river.

If he is going to let you off cheap, this was probably the best way to play the hand, if he has you beat, then you saved money if you are beat by check calling down to the river, rather than raising the flop or the turn. Also, if you raise the flop and he has nothing he folds right there and doesnt give u the extra bets.
 
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joosebuck

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i dont ever raise this river as played. im asking about the flop/turn.
 
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i dont ever raise this river as played. im asking about the flop/turn.

made a typo. That last sentence in my last post is supposed to read:

Also, if you raise the flop and he has nothing he folds right there and doesnt give u the extra bets on the turn and river.
 
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I can see CR the turn and fold to a shove as a decent line against this type of opponent.
 
Schatzdog

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I can't really see a good reason to raise the flop or turn here. Villains turn bet is tiny though so I don't think you're ever folding this but then expect to call a river bet. Do you think he's trying to induce a bet on the turn?

If you're playing for pot control and you think your hand has showdown value then you can't really c/r the turn can you?

What range are you giving Villain here?
 
joosebuck

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villian has no range. insert any 2 holecards. random 3bets/overcalls/raises galore
 
ChuckTs

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wp, we don't want to bloat the pot with such a weak holding. I like the passive play.
79/23/2 over ~150 hands
wow btw :)
 
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I'm really happy that you are now able to post a hand like this and every1 is telling you well played. I remember when I 1st came here every1 would say to "raise for information" somewhere.

I like this hand just fine presuming u call river.

Also....pleeeeeese can we start converting hands? :)
 
joosebuck

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we need a stickied link to the converter. i looked but couldnt find it.
 
ChuckTs

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I think it got deleted when they split the HA section in two. Found an old link to it, but the link is dead.

I haven't used a converter in ages...post whatever it is you use at 2+2, dbitel, and get the mods to sticky it in both HA sections. I can't seem to find a link to any converter not on another forum's site.
 
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