This is a discussion on €200 NLHE Full Ring: Live Casino - AJo Defending after Raising Flop within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; HERO Raise BB 6 AcJh
VILLAIN Bet 12
VILLAIN Bet 18
Very player dependent. Against tight and/or aggressive players, I like playing this hand defensively, as you did, especially out of position against two opponents. If they are passive and call preflop with literally any AX, then I prefer betting for value.
A bit too passive for me. I'm a little suprised he didn't bet big and put you in a tough spot on the end...how strong can you be there? Not very after three checks.
It's pretty much a flop cbet here 80% of the time for me. 33-50% sizing into two players.
We are EP and have a range advantage and there will be straight/gutshot-pair draws off the 75 and a few heart draws and non believing midpairs that I want to charge.
The turn is a decent brick. If they called flop with Ax or with draws around the 75 then the only hand that even vaguely improves is 89/AT both unlikely unless suited so only a few combos.
AQ and sets are really the only concern.
Its a 2 streets of value hand, if you think hes drawing then
Id bet turn around 55% pot to recharge the draws.
If hes a tighter player with more Ax then Id consider checking turn and betting river if the turn was checked.
If i did bet turn and was called again Im checking calling river unless the sizing is well over half pot.
The Q reduces the chance of them having AQ.
Its not a good spot to bluff for whiffed draws as you could easily have AQ AA in your range plus all the sets.
Their only hands that can bet river are AQ and sets. They should be betting quite large.
Getting people to lay down tptk in a casino is a fools mission.
Id expect any decent player to just check behind with any showdown equity on that board.
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re: Poker & €200 NLHE Full Ring: Live Casino - AJo Defending after Raising Flop
I agree with above poster, you should open with your holding on this board...especially against 2 players. You're ahead most of the time, and way too many bad turn cards. I would guess that you won the hand or possibly chopped. My guess is AJ, A9, or a KQ hearts type hand that checked the river because they picked up showdown value on the end.
For starters it would be better if you gave some stack sizes. They need not be exact, but something. You also did not give betting positions, so I'll assume Hero is in middle position, AJ o not being strong enough to open UTG.
Since Hero opened he is expected to raise when an Ace hits. Why check? I would have bet 2/3s pot. The other question that should be answered is, "How many streets do you want to bet out of position with top pair OK kicker?" I would say two.
BTW, knowing the total pot at each stage would also help.
As played I would have re-raised, but it is hard to judge, without knowing how deep the effective stack is. The bet would look very strong and fold out weaker hands.
Turn is a brick and I would have bet. As played, Villain raise 1/3 pot, which looks weak and she is trying to get to show down, but I like just calling. Betting will not fold anyone you can't beat.
The river makes a straight for KJ, but that had is very unlikely to have made it this far. At this point checking down for a cheap show down as played is the best course.
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