$20 NLHE Full Ring: Middle set in multiway pot

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pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.08/$0.16 - 8 players
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UTG: $34.95 (218 bb)
UTG+1: $16.00 (100 bb)
MP: $13.92 (87 bb)
MP+1: $9.04 (57 bb)
CO (Hero): $44.54 (278 bb)
BU: $19.16 (120 bb)
SB: $17.88 (112 bb)
BB: $15.20 (95 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.24) Hero is CO with 5d 5s
3 players fold, MP+1 calls $0.16, Hero raises to $0.72, BTN calls $0.72, 1 fold, BB calls $0.56, MP+1 calls $0.56
Flop: ($2.96) 5h Kh 4c (4 players)
BB bets $0.48, MP+1 calls $0.48, Hero raises to $2.62, BU folds, BB calls $2.14, MP+1 calls $2.14
Turn: ($10.82) Qd (3 players)
BB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero?

BB stats: VPIP 65 / PFR 0 over 23 hands
HJ stats: VPIP 18 / PFR 5 over 22 hands
BTN stats: VPIP 30 / PFR 7 over 61 hands

Here is another hand from todays session, and once again it involves a donk bet. Question is, how do we get the most value here from these recreational players?
 
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Ok aggressive game, it looks good. In preflop you raised above the standard. Now your range has a lot of non-blocking combinations and could potentially help in the post flop to represent a good hand, thus turning a low hand into a really dangerous range and generating interesting fold equity. The thing that I observe is that you choose very well the tables that you participate. This has the advantage that decisions are simpler when you find yourself in critical places. But the downside is that possibly against sticky villains you have less chance of beating top pairs for example as we don't expect weak kickers to give up in these cases.
So from this I infer that a size at 4x or 4.5x works best in preflop against these villains. But beyond that size, you really are exposing yourself many times to catchy calls that will follow you to the end.
On the flop your raise was a bit excessive, but we really do have the top of our range, so the size you chose can fit very well in micro stakes.
On the turn, your push was too aggressive. Your polarized range could represent a lost draw, now you are dominated in TPTK combos or even medium pockets that could trap you in this place. When covering villains in stacks, a smaller overbet is proportionally more elegant, in order to represent the same range of aggression. Hopefully you get the same call frequency, but your move could be more exploitative for the long haul.
Greetings.
 
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The Leveling Wars, Episode I: The Fish Menace

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.08/$0.16 - 8 players
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UTG: $34.95 (218 bb)
UTG+1: $16.00 (100 bb)
MP: $13.92 (87 bb)
MP+1: $9.04 (57 bb)
CO (Hero): $44.54 (278 bb)
BU: $19.16 (120 bb)
SB: $17.88 (112 bb)
BB: $15.20 (95 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.24) Hero is CO with 5d 5s
3 players fold, MP+1 calls $0.16, Hero raises to $0.72, BTN calls $0.72, 1 fold, BB calls $0.56, MP+1 calls $0.56
Flop: ($2.96) 5h Kh 4c (4 players)
BB bets $0.48, MP+1 calls $0.48, Hero raises to $2.62, BU folds, BB calls $2.14, MP+1 calls $2.14
Turn: ($10.82) Qd (3 players)
BB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero?

BB stats: VPIP 65 / PFR 0 over 23 hands
HJ stats: VPIP 18 / PFR 5 over 22 hands
BTN stats: VPIP 30 / PFR 7 over 61 hands

Here is another hand from todays session, and once again it involves a donk bet. Question is, how do we get the most value here from these recreational players?

Hi fundiver199, thank you for sharing your hand with us.

The Preflop

Well, pretty standard scenario, we are almost always raising limper with all the pocket pairs and two of them call.

the postflop

The Flop

Perfect for our range because now we have all the AK, KK, 55 and fishes don't. Our bluffs here are the medium flush draws of hearts with Th, Jh, Qh and Kh, so our bluffs are BDFs and BDS so no problem in raising here.
When it comes to 44 we can be even here but this is not our one combo concern, we are facing very weak players who elected to donk bet in situation where BB has not range advantage:
BB and MP are broken stacks and this is a very non-sense move for both players, so I believe that given the connectivity of the board for low straights and the fact of the flush draw, we should be always raising here, for protection and value, 100% of times and given that our range advantage is so gigantic, any sizing we use here is fine, since Villains demonstraded by their actions they have some kind of value.
The only difference here is that perhaps I would like more of going all-in OTF since at least one of the players are going in no matter what, I don't believe they are going to fold anything.

The Turn

Congratulations and gl always. This is a massive pot very important for our winrate. Do not forget to put a note on this guy of the blinds.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
 
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Raise the flop slightly more so you can easily shove the turn. ez game.
 
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