re: Poker & $20 NLHE 6-max: [20NL] - Go for thin value with 2nd pair here?
From HJ or MP your opening is too large (4.5x) because the effective stacks (BTN and SB) are still active in the hand. If you find yourself playing HU with the BB I can understand that size. But here it should be at most 3.5x, taking into account this.
BTN and SB calls are in appearance representative of strong ranges.
It seems that you have been able to gather some information on these villains, when you say that SB could take this line with literal clean air.
However, I think this is more likely in an SB vs BTN duel.
When you are the opener, rest assured that a villain no matter how drunk he is will respect your presence, when you have a large chip advantage.
This bet definitely seems of value. Obviously we are dominated in blockers, since any J, Q, A could represent a better draw, and the villain tries fold us with the top of his range.
When we call here, we should think about the turn, the times that villain does not keep betting.
The action of OTT villain is an indication of weakness in his rank. The SB couldn't get us to fold the hand. On the other hand, any strong flush draw would continue betting to seek to knock us down. It is very strange that the villain feels protected with a hand like QhKs, after we called his donk bet which was large of size. We're just going to call with hands of value, and we will represent strong draws sometime, when we have the main blocker (Ah).
Therefore, OTT is opportune for us a leveling bet, with a size of 50% pot, would be enough to throw all the dominated hands or get more value from them.
On the river we simply have to protect our range of check, taking advantage of the fact that we have a position on the villain.
Greetings.
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