$2 NLHE Full Ring: In BB: 3Bet and a triple barrel bluff

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Grinder888

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This is a strange hand that I played. I was focusing on 3b-ing more from the BB position and (got in the role and) triple barreled with air. I was not sure about the river but pulled the trigger anyway. I was also doubtful about posting this here but I think it might do more good than harm (hopefully)

888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): 122.5 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 44)
UTG+1: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 112 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP+1: 80.5 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 119 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BTN: 97 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.69, PFR: 8.45, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 144)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qc Kc
UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 5.5 BB

Flop : (18.5 BB, 2 players) Td 4c 9h
Hero bets 11 BB, UTG+1 calls 11 BB

Turn : (40.5 BB, 2 players) 3s
Hero bets 30 BB, UTG+1 calls 30 BB

River : (100.5 BB, 2 players) 6c
Hero bets 73 BB and is all-in ...
 
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I guess this is a pretty credible play to rep a big pair, nothing wrong with it really. You guys have only played 8 hands together so nothing much to suggest you are bluffing.
 
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Your 3bet size is a bit small and unless you KNOW he can fold JJ/QQ here (and with 8 hands against you don't) just give up on the turn.
 
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you should 3bet to 8bb IP but definitely 3bet 9bb OOP plus there was a limper ahead so you can add 1 or 2 bb more, he should open to 4 tho...
Im OK with a 3bet with KQ cuz of the blockers to his value range tho i cold call KQ at BB against UTG, probably a safer is to 3bet cuz of the more difficult post flop situation with speculative hand OOP, so as i say im OK with 3bet.
flop cbet is OK with GS+2overs, turn shouldnt be a 2nd barrel, we havent improved at all, and 3 is no way a scare card for him so if he decided to call flop he definitely wont fold turn, if it was a 3c that would give us a FD and more outs that i would be borderline OK to fire 2nd barrel, as played river is x/f, you dont need this 3barrel bluffs to beat 2nl
 
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not the best time

This is a strange hand that I played. I was focusing on 3b-ing more from the BB position and (got in the role and) triple barreled with air. I was not sure about the river but pulled the trigger anyway. I was also doubtful about posting this here but I think it might do more good than harm (hopefully)

888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): 122.5 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
UTG+1: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 112 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP+1: 80.5 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 119 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BTN: 97 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.69, PFR: 8.45, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 144)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qc Kc
UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 5.5 BB

Flop : (18.5 BB, 2 players) Td 4c 9h
Hero bets 11 BB, UTG+1 calls 11 BB

Turn : (40.5 BB, 2 players) 3s
Hero bets 30 BB, UTG+1 calls 30 BB

River : (100.5 BB, 2 players) 6c
Hero bets 73 BB and is all-in ...

1) I've experimented a bit with 3betting from the BB as well at this level and I think in general its not the best idea to do so with less than great hands. Save your lower end 3bets for in position. If you are though try do it against looser players.

2) good to continue on the flop when you miss here you got the J for the nuts, twwo overs but when he calls the flop I think you gotta shut down vs this villian on that turn card.

3) if you do choose to db which isnt teribble, get him to fold some mid pairs sometimes you definately have to shut down on the river, its not a scare card and pretty much anything he is calling on the turn is calling river.
 
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Thanks guys, really did more good than harm!

What I gather is that it is an ok play but I should give up on the turn/river to aggression. And would it be better to flat pre, take a stab on the flop and give up on later streets to aggression? (I know its not black and white but still)
 
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