$2 NLHE 6-max: Can we ever fold bottom set in this spot?

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pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players
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UTG: $2.18 (109 bb)
CO: $2.49 (125 bb)
BU: $1.85 (93 bb)
SB (Hero): $2.20 (110 bb)
BB: $1.99 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 4 4
UTG raises to $0.06, CO calls $0.06, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) 4 Q T (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.08, CO calls $0.08, Hero raises to $0.30, UTG calls $0.22, CO raises to $1.17, Hero raises to $2.14 (all-in), UTG folds, CO calls $0.97
 
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it is depends of villain. could he just cold call with TT+ or he has flush/straight draw? I would call without any reads and make note.
 
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Never mate. I would put him on two pairs firstly then flush draw is most likelybetter option. He shouldn't have any set of Q or T in his range. Not a single soul might fold set there knowing you're ahead. And even on these buyin sizes like you're not putting your whole money into game, just go ahead and call buddy. (Also what happened afterwards, please let me know)
 
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no. If we decide to call it for a set we have to stuck off it on this board structure. Sometimes I could fold it on wet, flush draws boards like 984 or 874 because those boards hit CC ranges at these stake. But not on QT4 with fd, because people can stuck here easily hands like AQ, KQ, AJ with fds etc. which decided to not 3bet it preflop (what happens a lot at nl2 of course). Anyway from my expierence guy probably showed you TT, because his raise wasn't an allin so that kind of play is mostly really strong hand like a set, but still it's nl2 and I expect some spazzes, overplays too.
 
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P: fine.

F: yes, check/raise. Sick spot, I don't like CO's 3bet multi-way after calling initially. Also the sizing is weird, sort of a non-allin all-in, which means serious strength.

If CO is a 45/32 type player, then I stack off, but if he's 20/12 type player then I make a super-nitty fold vs his 3bet.
 
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