$2 NLHE 6-max: cold 4bet QQ/Nit shoves

[PaxMundi]

Co 18/10/0
51 hands
Btn 43/14/0
7 hands

Not a spot i like to over call so went for the cold 4bet with intentions to iso or get it in Vs the Btn. Thoughts on folding vs calling agaisnt the Nit's shove ?
cheers.


UTG: $2.00 (100 bb)
CO: $2.52 (126 bb)
BTN: $2.18 (109 bb)
SB: $2.00 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $8.83 (441.5 bb)

SB posts $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q♣ Q♠
fold, CO raises to $0.06, BTN raises to $0.18, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, CO raises to $2.52 and is all-in, fold, Hero ?

 

[quant1986]

Yes easy fold at NL2

 

[xxgsaint5501xx]

Co 18/10/0
51 hands
Btn 43/14/0
7 hands

Not a spot i like to over call so went for the cold 4bet with intentions to iso or get it in Vs the Btn. Thoughts on folding vs calling agaisnt the Nit's shove ?
cheers.


UTG: $2.00 (100 bb)
CO: $2.52 (126 bb)
BTN: $2.18 (109 bb)
SB: $2.00 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $8.83 (441.5 bb)

SB posts $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q♣ Q♠
fold, CO raises to $0.06, BTN raises to $0.18, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, CO raises to $2.52 and is all-in, fold, Hero ?

Although your sample size is way too small to definitively classify villian as a nit, if you trust in your information, it is a fold. At best against a nit you are flipping with AK, but more likely playing a thoroughly dominated 2 outer, Unless of course your stats indicate to him that you are a "maniac" in which case his shoving range gets a little wider.

 

[Sidetracked]

Not a big enough sample size to classify him, but if he actually is a nit, QQ is a fold there.

 

[TheBigFinn]

First, a nit 9 handed is not the same as a nit 6 handed. Second Hero is calling $2.02 to win $5.24

If Hero is confident Villain is only pushing with AA, KK and AK, then it is an easy fold. If there is a chance she is pushing QQ & JJ and just a few bluffs its a call. If there is a chance she is pushing AQ & AJ its an easy call.

 

[puzzlefish]

7 hands is very low for the PFR stat.. I don't even think that's statistically significant. You can't really guess if he has KK+ or JJ-. I would concur that at NL2 this is how KK+ plays. I think the right play was call the $0.18 and build the pot properly from the flop.

 

[John A]

Folding or calling here isn't a huge difference really. If your read is def spot on, then it's a narrow fold. If it's not.... and even nits can jam weaker hands in a perceived squeeze spot.

 

[EllinLucky]

I think here is easy fold. And stats are not relevant because hands not enough.

 

[SuzdalDEcor]

If he will push KK+ and AK+ you must call because good chance to call. If his range will be QQ+ AK+ you must play snap call

 

[guineasqueak]

With 18 VPIP, he's always showing AA/KK if called in this spot. Your 4bet probe with QQ was prudent but folding is necessary when he jams like that.

 

[pokeherface]

First, a nit 9 handed is not the same as a nit 6 handed. Second Hero is calling $2.02 to win $5.24

If Hero is confident Villain is only pushing with AA, KK and AK, then it is an easy fold. If there is a chance she is pushing QQ & JJ and just a few bluffs its a call. If there is a chance she is pushing AQ & AJ its an easy call.

do you not think AQ AJ or even JJ is a little bit loose in this situation ? I think at best we are flipping with AK given that you have already 4b if this player is a recreational player yes I think QQ is good here often enough

 

[c0rnBr34d]

Pretty nasty. Small sample size and nit labeling aside, I think I fold here. Cold 4 bets are super nutted. Anyone 5 bet jamming over the top of a cold 4 bet does not have QQ or AQ much IMO. I would expect to see KK+ and maybe AK. Another poster made a solid point though. You shared the Vs stats but not your own. If you are very loose aggressive perhaps V can make a stand with a wider range.