$2 NLHE 6-max: Chasing Nut FD

[Morra123]

how bad it is to play bet bet bet with Nut Flush Draw? I lost today 350bbs by chasing it , like a ****ing retard , its insane. thank you for any help.


pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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UTG (Hero): $3.85 (193 bb)
MP: $2.19 (110 bb)
CO: $1.88 (94 bb)
BU: $2.31 (116 bb)
SB: $2.28 (114 bb)
BB: $2.98 (149 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with T♥ A♥
Hero raises to $0.05, 2 players fold, BTN calls $0.05, SB 3-bets to $0.18, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.13, BTN calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.56) 5♥ 5♠ 7♥ (3 players)
SB bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.34, BU folds

Turn: ($1.24) Q♣ (2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $3.33 (all-in), SB calls $1.36 (all-in)

River: ($4.76) 2♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.76 (Rake: $0.17)

Showdown:
UTG (Hero) shows T♥ A♥ (a pair of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 48%, Flop: 48%, Turn: 32%, River: 0%)

SB shows 8♦ 8♥ (two pair, Eights and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 52%, Turn: 68%, River: 100%)

SB wins $4.59

 

[Alex_Ogienko]

no offense, but this is a fish game. 1. Why do you call 3bet with a mediocre hand and from early position? 2. Why are you raising all-in on the turn? Only a stronger hand will accept you. You probably played this hand on tilt. Well, it happens.

 

[tt124f]

I do not know the fold equity there when raising at turn. Not all middle pair will go this hero call here.
But calling is definitely viable, we only need 25% wining equity to call and against JJ we have exactly 25%. marginal profitable spot.

 

[Aballinamion]

how bad it is to play bet bet bet with Nut Flush Draw? I lost today 350bbs by chasing it , like a ****ing retard , its insane. thank you for any help.


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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UTG (Hero): $3.85 (193 bb)
MP: $2.19 (110 bb)
CO: $1.88 (94 bb)
BU: $2.31 (116 bb)
SB: $2.28 (114 bb)
BB: $2.98 (149 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with T♥ A♥
Hero raises to $0.05, 2 players fold, BTN calls $0.05, SB 3-bets to $0.18, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.13, BTN calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.56) 5♥ 5♠ 7♥ (3 players)
SB bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.34, BU folds

Turn: ($1.24) Q♣ (2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $3.33 (all-in), SB calls $1.36 (all-in)

River: ($4.76) 2♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.76 (Rake: $0.17)

Showdown:
UTG (Hero) shows T♥ A♥ (a pair of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 48%, Flop: 48%, Turn: 32%, River: 0%)

SB shows 8♦ 8♥ (two pair, Eights and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 52%, Turn: 68%, River: 100%)

SB wins $4.59

First, I am not totally on board calling this SB's Squeeze preflop, AhTh is very strong and bla, bla, bla, but postflop we are going to face a lot of problems.
If the player in position (BTN) had folded, we could thinking about flatting the 3-bet preflop because thus we would have position over SB.

Now, when we do flat 3-bet preflop, we do not have position over the BTN, we don't know what BTN is going to make, SB already has better hands than us, such as AJ, AQ and AK, and what the heck are we calling for?

OTF we cannot be raising as well, but we also cannot fold. OTT I would say our equity sucks very much and I would be folding, instead of jamming.
At 2 NLHE and 5 NLHE stakes, I never expect players to be folding when they 3-bet preflop, because most of morons believe that they had invested too much already to be folding whatever they elected to 3-bet preflop, so they are going in and we don't need to be angry or happy when Villain displays some ludicrous Pocket 22 OTR as a showdown, totally whiffed, this is the micros!

At the micros as most ABC and Square game we can play, more fast we can grind it and move it do a more decent stake/level such as 10 NLHE or 25 NLHE.
Our odds to hit the flush OTR aren't good, we have barely 18% equity to be pushing OTT, versus a Villain who never folds.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa

 

[1player2]

how bad it is to play bet bet bet with Nut Flush Draw? I lost today 350bbs by chasing it , like a ****ing retard , its insane. thank you for any help.


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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UTG (Hero): $3.85 (193 bb)
MP: $2.19 (110 bb)
CO: $1.88 (94 bb)
BU: $2.31 (116 bb)
SB: $2.28 (114 bb)
BB: $2.98 (149 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with T♥ A♥
Hero raises to $0.05, 2 players fold, BTN calls $0.05, SB 3-bets to $0.18, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.13, BTN calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.56) 5♥ 5♠ 7♥ (3 players)
SB bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.34, BU folds

Turn: ($1.24) Q♣ (2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $3.33 (all-in), SB calls $1.36 (all-in)

River: ($4.76) 2♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.76 (Rake: $0.17)

Showdown:
UTG (Hero) shows T♥ A♥ (a pair of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 48%, Flop: 48%, Turn: 32%, River: 0%)

SB shows 8♦ 8♥ (two pair, Eights and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 52%, Turn: 68%, River: 100%)

SB wins $4.59

Hello,


As long as You're getting favorable pot odds I think you go for it.

 

[zuker]

You answer your question by yourself. Its bad to chase flush when you in tilt.

 

[fundiver199]

I am fine with calling the 3-bet, because we are in position, and we are also getting a really good price. Sure we are dominated sometimes, but we just need to use our position and play postflop well. Postflop I tend to assume less fold equity in a 3-bet pot, so this is one of the few sitautions, where I prefer to play the draw passively. You even have some showdown value, if he is bluffing with for instance a wheel ace and give up on the river. So just call again on the turn and give up on the river, unless you improve.