$2 NLHE 6-max: Calling a 3 Bet from Btn, losing the plot on flop

GreenDaddy1

GreenDaddy1

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In the cold light of day I am replaying that hand thinking well sure I call flop, sort of begrudgingly. But nope, a very tilty jam with a crappy top pair. The embarassment of posting this can only do me good :D

Serious thoughts on what people would have done on that flop, ie just call and fold to any real pressure on turn if no major improvement?


Pacific Poker - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 193.5 BB
BB: 58.5 BB
UTG: 147 BB
MP: 121.5 BB
CO: 107.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:spade: T:spade:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB raises to 16 BB, fold, UTG calls 15 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Flop: (49 BB, 3 players) T:club: 5:diamond: 3:club:
SB bets 36.5 BB, UTG calls 36.5 BB, Hero raises to 84 BB and is all-in, SB raises to 131.5 BB, UTG calls 94.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (395 BB, 3 players) Q:club:

River: (395 BB, 3 players) 2:heart:

Hero shows J:spade: T:spade: (One Pair, Tens)

Main Pot [301 BB]: (Pre 27%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)

SB shows A:diamond: T:diamond: (One Pair, Tens)

Main Pot [301 BB]: (Pre 44%, Flop 52%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [94 BB]: (Pre 61%, Flop 59%, Turn 0%)

UTG shows 6:club: 9:club: (Flush, Queen High)

Main Pot [301 BB]: (Pre 29%, Flop 41%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot#1 [94 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 41%, Turn 100%)

UTG wins 282.5 BB
UTG wins 88 BB
 
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I think flop is an easy fold, both two villains must have something, at least flush draw. SB's range is very strong when he bets 3/4, including JJ+, TT, I am a little surprised to see ATs, but that's also reasonable. He bets big because he wants to protect his hand against all kinds of draws. UTG looks fishy, but I think he also gets a piece on this board, must likely some draws.
Against these two ranges we are seldom good, your raise is a little weird because it is neither value bet nor bluff. I will just fold this TPBK and move on our life.
 
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Hello,

P: iso to 4x is fine, but we must fold to massive squeeze and call for a multi-way flop. We have position, but not initiative. Also, multi-way results in a massive pot where you play hit-or-miss.

You are bleeding money continuing with these speculative hands. You simply won't hit the flop often enough for these plays to be profitable.

F: as played, very easy fold multi-way vs a strong range that crushes us betting into 2 opponents.

There is nothing more for us to do after heavy action preflop and on flop. If we call, we have less than a pot-sized stack behind.

Flop is drawy, so weak/loose players are never folding to our bluff jam with all the money already in the pot: UTG is a very bad player (limp/call vs 3bet preflop).
 
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Pre is fine once the fish calls. Flop is a fold though. That's pretty std poker in a 3-bet pot. If you get a large bet and call on a rag flop like that, you should bow out with a weak one pair hand.
 
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