This is a discussion on $2 NLHE 6-max: Awkward calling a river shove expecting a chop within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; Bonkers. With how this pot went down this river shove just seemed a bluff to me. I'd be expecting to fold this to any reg
River:(80.5 BB, 3 players) T♣ Hero checks, UTG bets 68 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 68 BB
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Well poker where you play it is not dead.
Some players think weird aggression is ok. They do not realize that each of their actions on every street tells a story on the river. Call 3 bet pre -just call flop 2bb- bet 10.5bb lead out on the five when you should have so very few 5's then shove river when the T pairs. I was thinking the UTG had 98h or 87h something hopeful on the flop that they did not want to raise just see a cheap card.
Good call on the river because the UTG's story made 0 sense in a 2nl game.
Do you have reads on opponents? Other than this is NL2? BU looks like a weak player due to stack of only 69bb.
P: readless almost never 3bet this multi-way OOP, you will be in massive pot playing hit-or-miss, usually folding to first bet or taking massive risks to bluff opponents who don't like folding or calling down. Even if you have reads, this is spewing money. Easy flat to see a flop. BB behind you is weak (50bb stack).
F: as played, fine. (Confirmed BU is weak player.)
T: weird donk and sizing multi-way by UTG, maybe it's ok if you treat BU's silly flop bet as a check. I'm guessing this is strength, so easy fold multi-way. Maybe JJ, 99-77 Txs or weirdly played KK lead like this. We block weird AA, we block QQ AT A6 A5 QT and TT/66/55/65s raises flop. Why would 98s/87s lead multi-way like this? Do you have reads that UTG is very loose? Could UTG be crazy enough to have 85s 75s?
What is your plan for the hand when you call turn OOP multi-way with less than a pot-sized bet behind? With bad run-outs possible? I think readless we have odds to call, but it's not just about raw math.
R: as played, readless we have to fold, assuming UTG isn't very loose and repping QQ-JJ, weird 99-77. But we should never be in this spot.
If UTG is very loose and bluffy, then yes its a call, even if UTG is trapping preflop with KK+.
All-in sizing in this spot isn't weird, anything 75-100% of pot is fine, so looking at this sizing in a vacuum doesn't mean it's a bluff. Yes, up to this point the hand is non-standard.