$2 NLHE 6-max: Is this a good call or should I have raised?

[Jamalex]

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 139 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 116 BB
BTN: 120 BB
SB: 103.5 BB
Hero (BB): 351 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:diamond: A:spade:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 2:spade: 7:spade: 3:spade:
Hero bets 12 BB, BTN calls 12 BB

Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets 12.5 BB, Hero calls 12.5 BB

River: (69.5 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

RESULTS ARE BELOW











































[spoil]BTN shows K:spade: Q:club: (Flush, King High)
(Pre 25%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K:diamond: A:spade: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 75%, Flop 93%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 104.5 BB
[/spoil]

 

[c0rnBr34d]

Why are you flatting the turn? Raise turn, bet river. And as played in a 3B pot I would raise river for value. V should only have 77 and 99 and the way the hand played with no large bets anywhere post flop neither hand seems likely.

 

[Jamalex]

Why are you flatting the turn? Raise turn, bet river. And as played in a 3B pot I would raise river for value. V should only have 77 and 99 and the way the hand played with no large bets anywhere post flop neither hand seems likely.

I had checked the turn looking to trap the nuts and I planned to checkraise river or bet into him if he checked back turn. Probably much better to either continue betting turn or check raise the turn itself. That said I was much more interested in whether I should raise river and your probably right but I ended up being gunshy, scared of a boat. I agree in retrospect most sets would bet bigger on such a wet board so I'm more likely up against a bluff or worse flush. You live and you learn

 

[Vlaad]

In my opinion the check-call on the turn is ok, even if I would have preferred betting or check-raising. But on the river, if you go for the check, you should definitely raise his bet. Depends on the player, but I'm not sure if he would call your 3-bet preflop with 77. And if he has 99, take the beat and move on. It's much more likely he has a flush in this situation, hence raising gets you the most value longterm (in my opinion).

 

[zuker]

On turn you have nuts. You have to play bet or check raise for value not check call.

 

[300HPGOD]

I am good with pre flop and flop. You make a good raise size pre but that is as small as I would go raising from the BB. I think I prefer a raise to 12 myself but 10 is also fine.

The flop c bet makes sense and I think the sizing is ok. The turn is where it is open to debate obviously. I dont mind checking there but before you check you need to know and think to yourself why you are checking and what you are planning to do with it. Meaning are we checking here to check raise the turn or are we checking here to look weaker and then bet fairly large on the river if they check behind, etc. With this hand and this board I would never check the turn and the river. If villain bets small on the turn then I would either check raise or I would call and then lead river (I would try to base it on villain what I think would work better). If villain bets large on the turn (30BB or more) then I am probably just piling it on top of them. I cant see a route where I would go check check on both streets.

The river as played sucks a little since the board paired and we could be beat now but unlikely. I think we would have heard from a set by now so I am not thinking that is the case so I would be inclined to lead out for value. I dont like checking and then when we face another small bet with villain having about 65BB behind I would have to go with my read here and think they dont have a set and therefore I am good. I would try to think to myself would JJ, 1010, 2x, or K,Q flushes call here if I jammed or raised. I dont think any of those hands is calling a jam and might not even call a min raise. At this point calling is probably the best option since few if any worse hands will call but this is exactly why you need to be leading here or raising the turn. If you had led the river for half pot you would get a call from villain would be another 15BB of value.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Like the 3-bet and the sizing as well.

Flop
Like the C-bet and the sizing also seem ok here.

Turn
This is the interesting point in the hand, and while I do think, it can be ok to mix in a check with the nuts from time to time, I think, you mainly want to be betting for value. Monotone boards are rather specialised, because its so easy to have the nuts, and therefore removal becomes very important. When you have the nuts, he cant have it, and therefore he is more likely to not put money in the pot.

However checking does not really change that. Its really difficult to find bluffs on monotone boards, because you cant really have a draw other than to a full house, and if you are drawing to a full house, you already have a set or two pair, which mean, you have some showdown value. So per definition any bluff on a board like this is pretty much an airball, and therefore I dont think, checking induce a ton of bluffs.

If he has a hand like TT with no spade, he is probably going to fold, when you bet. But if you check, he is not turning it into a bluff. He is done with the hand, so he will check back, and if you bet the river, he will still fold. So I think, him folding is something, you just need to accept. And by checking you allow him to check back with those hands, that can actually pay you. Like a second best flush or even worse a set, that might draw out on you.

As played things get rather awkward, when he bet small. Because now you can either just call and check to him on the river, and then you basically let him off the hook. Or you can check-raise or lead river, which almost looks stronger than continuing to bet. But as played I would go for a check-raise here and then jam the river even on cards that pair the board.

River
Now the board paired, which makes an awkward situation even more awkward for you. If you lead or check-raise now, you are kind of saying, you have a full house, so you would almost be overrepresenting your hand. And there is of course also a small risk, you are now beat. So as played I would also check-call and get myself to showdown.

Conclusion
You definitely let his exact hand get away very cheap here, and I also dont think, your turn line created most value against his entire range. Either simply continue to bet or put in a check-raise, when he takes the bait and reopen the betting for you.

 

[greatgame230]

It was well played until the river where you would have to ask yourself is there any possibility that the opponent has a Full House, it did not seem that was the case therefore you had to give value to your hand which is a solid hand and with a very high percentage of to win it I think the right thing to do was to check / raise in the River, to be honest I like the check in the turn but in the river the move should be check/raise