$2 NLHE 6-max: $2 NLHE 6-max: is flop check a better line

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Dealt to Hero: 9h Ah
HERO Raises To 3 BBs, CO Calls 3, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls 2
Hero SPR on Flop: [6.58 effective]
Flop (9.5): 4h 3h Kd
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 6 (Rem. Stack: 91), BB Calls 6 (Rem. Stack: 56.5), HERO Calls 6 (Rem. Stack: 144)
Turn (27.5): 4h 3h Kd 9s
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 18 (Rem. Stack: 73), BB Calls 18 (Rem. Stack: 38.5), HERO Calls 18 (Rem. Stack: 126)
River (81.5): 4h 3h Kd 9s Qc
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 53.5 (Rem. Stack: 19.5), BB Folds, HERO Folds
CO wins: 76.5



Is check-raising the flop a good idea in this spot? Am feeling with hand strength just calling seems too passive, especially since I am the preflop raiser.
Thoughts would be appreciated.
 
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Dealt to Hero: 9h Ah
HERO Raises To 3 BBs, CO Calls 3, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls 2
Hero SPR on Flop: [6.58 effective]
Flop (9.5): 4h 3h Kd
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 6 (Rem. Stack: 91), BB Calls 6 (Rem. Stack: 56.5), HERO Calls 6 (Rem. Stack: 144)
Turn (27.5): 4h 3h Kd 9s
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 18 (Rem. Stack: 73), BB Calls 18 (Rem. Stack: 38.5), HERO Calls 18 (Rem. Stack: 126)
River (81.5): 4h 3h Kd 9s Qc
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 53.5 (Rem. Stack: 19.5), BB Folds, HERO Folds
CO wins: 76.5



Is check-raising the flop a good idea in this spot? Am feeling with hand strength just calling seems too passive, especially since I am the preflop raiser.
Thoughts would be appreciated.

If you run this through an equity calculator, you might find that you win in this spot about 3/10 times. The pot odds are a little bit low (about 0.22) but not by enough to make raising profitable imo.
 
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Preflop
Standard open.

Flop
As the preflop aggressor you are likely C-betting a lot of hands on this board, so why not also C-bet the nut flushdraw? If you can get them to fold, thats great, and if someone give action, you build up the pot for, when you improve to the nuts. Check-raising can be a good way to become more unpredictable and difficult to play against. But its a play, where you want to ultimately be able to make them fold top pair and anything worse on the river by moving all-in. And since you are playing 2NL, that is probably a bit to fancy for the player pool and also simply the stakes. That "big" river bet is still only a dollar a change, and for that reason alone people are less willing to fold, since its almost like play money to most.

Turn
Even if you had kept the initiative on the flop by C-betting, this is a card, where I would slow down and check, since you picked up at least some showdown value, and its unlikely, you can make someone fold a better hand than second pair. You also cant bet for value, especially when they both continued on the flop, since its quite likely, at least one of them has a K. As played a pretty easy check-call. Even if you are still behind, you picked up extra outs, and if you back into trips on the river, nobody will put you on that, and you can easily get paid by top pair.

River
Easy check-fold. Dont get to much into the hero calling, as long as you are playing stakes this low. The main rule is absolutely, that they usually have it, when they build a big pot, and if in dought always fold.
 
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Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software - http://drivehud.com

Dealt to Hero: 9h Ah
HERO Raises To 3 BBs, CO Calls 3, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls 2
Hero SPR on Flop: [6.58 effective]
Flop (9.5): 4h 3h Kd
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 6 (Rem. Stack: 91), BB Calls 6 (Rem. Stack: 56.5), HERO Calls 6 (Rem. Stack: 144)
Turn (27.5): 4h 3h Kd 9s
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 18 (Rem. Stack: 73), BB Calls 18 (Rem. Stack: 38.5), HERO Calls 18 (Rem. Stack: 126)
River (81.5): 4h 3h Kd 9s Qc
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Bets 53.5 (Rem. Stack: 19.5), BB Folds, HERO Folds
CO wins: 76.5



Is check-raising the flop a good idea in this spot? Am feeling with hand strength just calling seems too passive, especially since I am the preflop raiser.
Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thank you for posting

In this player pool checking is fine as we will often get value when we make the flush.
3 way we do not want to bet flop then CO raises and the other guy folds- By checking we keep that player in giving us better odds to draw.

Hope this helps
:):)
 
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