$2 NLHE 6-max: $2 NLHE 6-max:villain raises flop cbet

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2nji

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NL Holdem 0.02(BB)
HERO ($2.69) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 17.3% | AGG: 31% | Flop Agg: 29.6% | 3-Bet: 3.8% | 4-Bet: 1.3% | Hands: 8473]
CO ($2.04) [VPIP: 27.8% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 50% | Flop Agg: 60% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 40% | Hands: 20]
BTN ($2.06) [VPIP: 41.7% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 40% | Flop Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 50% | Hands: 12]
SB ($0.98) [VPIP: 51.4% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 28.3% | Flop Agg: 47.6% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 45.5% | Hands: 37]
BB ($0.58) [VPIP: 42.3% | PFR: 3.8% | AGG: 15% | hands: 27]

Dealt to Hero: Q Q

HERO Raises To $0.06, CO Calls $0.06, BTN Calls $0.06, SB Calls $0.05, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.54 effective]
Flop ($0.26): 6 8 8
SB Checks, HERO Bets $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $2.50), CO Raises To $0.32 (Rem. Stack: $1.66), BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO?

HERO Folds
CO wins: $0.49
 
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I can't imagine the CO cold-calling range of a bad reg (maybe? small sample but still) to contain much 8x. Maybe 98s? Mostly people set-mining or gambling with an AXs in my experience.

Considering CO has to get through three people, it's microstakes, and there are no obvious draws I guess their raising range is very value heavy. Still, folding an overpair to a tiny raise with so much dead money in the middle feels very nitty and other regs might start catching on. The weaker overpairs in villain's range are probably folding against a reraise so I don't think we can raise for value. Probably call to realise equity against villain's pocket pairs < QQ and the occasional bluff.
 
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I think his raise sizing is so small i would not fold to it on the flop. Just call and see if he slows down on the turn.
 
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It is only 20 hands of data on CO but they have not 3 bet yet for whatever that is worth. I am not sure any 8x hand would raise here with the possibility of that folding everyone else out with the board having no flush draws and straight draws that are there but not common draws (97 and 75). This bet to me is either a bluff with a hand like 55, 44, 77 etc or it is 99 that the villain did not 3 bet pre. I think some 109s could be in there and yes every once a while someone will play 8x like this but I dont think that is the case. I would go off my gut here and call this bet letting villain continue to bluff with whatever they have. I dont like if a 5, 7, 9 or 10, K or ace comes on the turn which is a lot of cards but I feel like re raising here only gets 99 (which we want) and any 8x or a rare 66 to call us. That to me is a little too small of a calling range that we would want to call us so I would I think I like calling and seeing what comes on the turn.

Villain plays 27.8% of hands (I know only out of 20) so at least so far they are not hugely loose but definitely on the loose side. In the end I just wouldnt think 8x would do this that often risking folds and would have a gut feeling it is 6x, 22-55, 77 or possibly 99.
 
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Thanks for the feedback didnt have enough information so thought folding was best, but after reading the comments seems it is very unlikely(but not impossible) for villain to be raising 8x, and folding to the his 3bet leaves me open to being exploited in the long run(especially given his small raise size) given how wide he is calling.
 
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P: fine

F: bet bigger multi-way to 100% pot. As played call vs small raise: we can't just fold vs random player's raise on paired flops. We can even check/call turn if its again a small-ish bet.

Multi-way is a concern, but not big enough concern to fold in this spot.
 
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