$2 NL HE 6-max: NL2. Calling down with AA to get the money in a good idea?

[Ortwin1989]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$.01/$.02

Table Format

6-max (6 seats)

VP$IP

23

PFR

11

Currency

$

Post Flop after he donk bets I thought just call him to get the money, but maybe raising his donk bet to get him fold might be the better idea...but with AA I was ahead until the river

pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/1256mcuPy

den S187 (UTG): $2.12 (106 bb)
Shobeck1 (CO): $1.87 (94 bb)
Ortwin1989 (BU): $2.00 (100 bb)
digerido (SB): $1.76 (88 bb)
Parantaja (BB): $1.64 (82 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Ortwin1989) is BTN with A♦ A♣
2 players fold, Ortwin1989 (BU) raises to $0.06, digerido (SB) calls $0.05, Parantaja (BB) calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.18) 9♥ 5♠ Q♦ (3 players)
digerido (SB) checks, Parantaja (BB) bets $0.08, Ortwin1989 (BU) calls $0.08, digerido (SB) folds

Turn: ($0.34) 7♦ (2 players)
Parantaja (BB) bets $0.16, Ortwin1989 (BU) raises to $0.42, Parantaja (BB) calls $0.26

River: ($1.18) K♠ (2 players)
Parantaja (BB) bets $0.57, Ortwin1989 (BU) raises to $1.44 (all-in), Parantaja (BB) calls $0.51 (all-in)

Total pot: $3.34 (Rake: $0.12)

Showdown:
Ortwin1989 (BU) shows A♦ A♣ (a pair of Aces)
(equity - Pre-Flop: 88%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 89%, River: 0%)

Parantaja (BB) shows K♦ Q♣ (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 12%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 11%, River: 100%)

Parantaja (BB) wins $3.22

 

[puzzlefish]

Being a passive calling station comes with these types of risks.

You can definitely get more value by raising preflop and on the flop. Then you can set a better price on the turn to make your opponent pay to see the river. If they make it to the river and suck out, well then you played profitably and if you do that exact type of scenario 1000 times then you should end up ahead by a long stretch.

Don't think just about making your opponent fold.

On another note: when you get reraised on your river bet, your aces are probably not good here. He's not going to do this with a pair of kings. You can stand to lose less.

 

[300HPGOD]

Pre flop is fine of course raising to 3x with AA. On the flop after getting two callers and one of them donk leading into us I would raise here unless I knew I was up against someone who was super aggro but backs down anytime they get fought back at. Without knowing that, I like raising the flop here to get value from hands that we would think would lead here like Qx and some 9x and those would probably still call our raise. There are no flush draws on the board so interesting the villain would be leading like they are afraid of a check behind by you so that makes me lean a little more towards they are 9x and not Qx. Given that I guess you could make the case to just call since less 9x would call a raise than Qx but I still like raising here to build the pot and get more value now and future streets when we do get called.

On the turn as played you get bet at again after just calling on the flop. I think raising here is fine although I like it more on the flop than on the turn since on the turn with only one more card to come their calling range should be tighter on the turn than on the flop so you might fold out some hands here you dont want to fold by raising but since you didnt raise the flop I think you have to target one pair hands now for value.

The river is not the best card since we would think their Qx holdings that would overcall pre would be Qx that is at least 9+. We own 2 aces so most likely they are Q9 (which would be really bad) through KQ which now just got there and QQ (which I doubt) was always there. 9x probably isnt calling the turn raise without two pair so they are Qx here a lot and of the 5 logical Qx 3 are beating you (not taking into account combos but simplifying). Plus any J10 that would have played this way got there too. I would have to think Q10 and QJ hands are not calling raise on turn and leading river so I am not sure what one pair hands call the river raise you make. At this point, its take your showdown value and hope your AA is good or fold. I would at least think about in this spot that I am no good but I dont think I would fold it since there are enough 2NL players here that think a one pair Qx is still good here. It would be scary to me though to think what Qx is actually leading the river like this when an overcard came and we raised on the turn. I would be scared Im beat but I think I would be a little married to my aces here and take the showdown value.

 

[John A]

The flop you can def raise considering the fact it's not a wet enough flop to try and get the initial checker involved. Turn is OK. Once he bets river though too w/ the 2 pair and draws that came in, it's a call. It's kind of close because he basically committed himself w/ that river bet, but at these stakes I think this is a call.

 

[gustav197poker]

I agree in play a little more aggressive in this hand. In fact when I saw the preflop in the replayer I thought you were going to play it with more action.
From what I see the opponent's range seems wider but when you raise on the turn and V calls you have to think that his range should have semi bluffs that are looking for the river that favors them.
At this point you have to think that your Ace of diamonds blocks the best flush draws and that makes the calling range for V more closed.
The river is bad for your range because now V could have come with hands like JT and 9K. Also you won't get any additional value from worse hands, so the least losing option in the long run is to simply call, as it's a mistake to think about folding into micros here. But for another similar situation you should raise on the flop and bet on the turn, as in this texture is worth getting more value when your opponent seems to call a lot preflop.
Greetings.

 

[Jarud]

I think you may have overvalued your hand, the river raise seemed suicidal, when he leads the river it usually (at nl2) means he doesn't want you to check back. So when we raise what hands do we want him to call with? There aren't many logical hands that he could have and that we beat that make much sense.
I believe there are two ways you could have played this hand, passively; as in, just called every street once he donked into you,
Or aggressively but I much much prefer a raise on the flop than the turn because his turn calling range is a lot tighter. Then we could consider folding river if villain wants to put a lot of money in.