$100 NLO 6-max: 3rd nut flush vs maniac

[serna]

PokerStars - $5000 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 43.26 BB
CO: 26.46 BB
Hero (BTN): 98 BB
SB: 44.05 BB
BB: 702.83 BB

SB posts SB 1 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has Q:club: A:diamond: 9:club: 6:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3 BB, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 3 players) 2:club: 7:club: 9:diamond:
SB checks, BB bets 11.64 BB, Hero calls 11.64 BB, SB calls 11.64 BB

Turn: (58.92 BB, 3 players) 4:club:
SB checks, BB bets 57.15 BB, Hero raises to 78.36 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 21.21 BB

River: (215.64 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:

Hero shows Q:club: A:diamond: 9:club: 6:club: (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 49%, Flop 46%, Turn 0%)
BB shows 5:club: J:spade: 2:spade: K:club: (Flush, King High)
(Pre 51%, Flop 54%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 209.17 BB
opinion about villain (the player on the BB) :he is very loose and maniac he opens every hand and calls every 3bet his vpip is 90 percent and as you see his 3bet sizing is very fishy.Flop:I have top pair and flush draw so I think I should call.Turn:I have 3rd nut flush but my opponent is very maniac and I dont what to do.

 

[eetenor]

PokerStars - $5000 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 43.26 BB
CO: 26.46 BB
Hero (BTN): 98 BB
SB: 44.05 BB
BB: 702.83 BB

SB posts SB 1 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has Q♣ A♦ 9♣ 6♣

fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3 BB, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 3 players) 2♣ 7♣ 9♦
SB checks, BB bets 11.64 BB, Hero calls 11.64 BB, SB calls 11.64 BB

Turn: (58.92 BB, 3 players) 4♣
SB checks, BB bets 57.15 BB, Hero raises to 78.36 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 21.21 BB

River: (215.64 BB, 2 players) 9♥

Hero shows Q♣ A♦ 9♣ 6♣ (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 49%, Flop 46%, Turn 0%)
BB shows 5♣ J♠ 2♠ K♣ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 51%, Flop 54%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 209.17 BB
opinion about villain (the player on the BB) :he is very loose and maniac he opens every hand and calls every 3bet his vpip is 90 percent and as you see his 3bet sizing is very fishy.Flop:I have top pair and flush draw so I think I should call.Turn:I have 3rd nut flush but my opponent is very maniac and I dont what to do.

Thank you for posting

Your preflop raise when the maniac is in the BB is -EV with the hand you are holding. You can limp this barely but building the pot pre is unnecessary vs a maniac.

When we play vs maniacs we do not want to open 3rd nut type of hands and we need our hands to be well connected so that we can get to more rivers confidently. Your holding is very weak vs a player who seldom folds and often raises. It is gapped AQ 63 A3 and 3 flushed so u r blocking your own draw. Unfortunately as played if our V is a true maniac we are now going to lose our stack when we make a flush.

The good news is versus this player we need play fewer hands as they will payoff when we are nutted.

Hope this helps

 

[ProblemPlaya]

as played call turn to let him keep bluffing/value betting worse

 

[ZefaPoker]

Preflop, i prefer min raising vs a maniac 3 bettor. Post flop, I'm not folding this holding 3 clubs in my hand. Turn, I call rather than jam and I'm calling off any river.

 

[eetenor]

PokerStars - $5000 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 43.26 BB
CO: 26.46 BB
Hero (BTN): 98 BB
SB: 44.05 BB
BB: 702.83 BB

SB posts SB 1 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has Q♣ A♦ 9♣ 6♣

fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3 BB, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 3 players) 2♣ 7♣ 9♦
SB checks, BB bets 11.64 BB, Hero calls 11.64 BB, SB calls 11.64 BB

Turn: (58.92 BB, 3 players) 4♣
SB checks, BB bets 57.15 BB, Hero raises to 78.36 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 21.21 BB

River: (215.64 BB, 2 players) 9♥

Hero shows Q♣ A♦ 9♣ 6♣ (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 49%, Flop 46%, Turn 0%)
BB shows 5♣ J♠ 2♠ K♣ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 51%, Flop 54%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 209.17 BB
opinion about villain (the player on the BB) :he is very loose and maniac he opens every hand and calls every 3bet his vpip is 90 percent and as you see his 3bet sizing is very fishy.Flop:I have top pair and flush draw so I think I should call.Turn:I have 3rd nut flush but my opponent is very maniac and I dont what to do.

Thank you for posting

So often when we lose big pots it is because of the foundation of the hand.

Vs passive players the hand is fine to play in LP maybe even ok to play vs maniacs in
Pot O but in NLO it is not a raise maybe not even a call because of the way the maniac can play their range.
You made one of the best hands you could make with the hand and we have no idea if we can call the turn profitably.

As played V is shoving into 2 players the SB could have AXcc Kxcc as well so 3rd flush is not an easy turn call in this spot.

When playing vs strong aggressive players in NLO we do not want to enter into pots with hands containing 3 flush cards- a 3rd nut flush draw and AQ 96gapped hands they just do not make the nuts often enough.
As you saw here the reverse implied odds can kill your bankroll.

By the way the BB was not a maniac in this hand- They had a double suited easy fold hand when missed and used a min 3 bet to take control of the pot preflop-then bet half pot as a semi bluff on the flop--that is not a maniac play it is a very strong Lag play.
It may have been by accident not design but it is how that hand can be played if you think you are better post flop than your villains.

Hope this helps

 

[WrongUsername]

call turn and let him keep betting.