$100 NLHE Full Ring: 100nl saw on other forum

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He guys I saw this on another forum and disagree with their decision. What would you do here?


buddy is 37/28/8.7(3b)

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) ($340.95)
UTG+1 ($348.60)
MP1 ($342.75)
MP2 ($217.20)
MP3 ($211.20)
CO ($213.25)
Button ($150)
SB ($103.30)
BB ($183.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J:diamond:, J:spade:
Hero bets $3.30, 1 fold, MP1 calls $3.30, MP2 calls $3.30, 1 fold, CO calls $3.30, 2 folds, BB calls $2.30

Flop: ($17) K:club:, K:heart:, K:spade: (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, MP1 calls $18, 3 folds

Turn: ($53) 9:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $22.65, MP1 calls $22.65

River: ($98.30) 8:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $49, MP1 raises $102, ......
 
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I would be happy to get it in. Someone that loose and aggressive I think would do this with worse and bluff these kind of boards quite a bit. I doubt he has aces or queens given the preflop action so only Kx hands that you are worried about. Is the turn bet not very small?
 
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MP1 is a fish so I'd just call.
 
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Given the odds, I call. But I don't like it.

Shoving as you propose on 2+2 is nuts, imo. You're 340bb deep and you want to shove when you're beat by a shit ton of Kx hands? You must not like money very much.
 
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This is a typical spot where an aggro fish slowplays the nuts. Given how strong your range is he should 100% shove the river but he's a fish so he minraises instead.
 
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reading the responses there, I understand the thinking that it's a fold, but i'd have a hard time doing that. Shoving is batshit crazy.
 
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P.s. I wouldn't shove, I thought villain shoved. I think folding is crazy though
 
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Given the odds, I call. But I don't like it.

Shoving as you propose on 2+2 is nuts, imo. You're 340bb deep and you want to shove when you're beat by a shit ton of Kx hands? You must not like money very much.

This, I was gonna post the same. 4/1 is a decent price top call, but not loving it.
 
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Call. You may have the best of it but villan just needs Kx to have you so no point in raising. If I read the post right too villan is loose pre so he could easily have Kx and call pre.

You only have to win 1 of 5.8 or so hands for the call to be profitable. I think it is reasonable that at least 16% of the time villan is bluffing. Call for showdown.
 
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I actually feel like we're dead on the flop 90% when he plays it like this.
 
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You think we're dead when a fish flats a cbet on a kkk board?
 
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when an aggro tard slows down and minraises the river, yeah.
 
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Oh no I agree I just thought you meant you thought we were dead just from the flop actipn
 
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