Originally Posted by c0rnBr34d
Had a tilt inducing patch of runbad in an epic long online session and somehow ended up playing well above my bankroll lol. At any rate this hand stood out during review of that session. What are your thoughts on this line?
V in the BB is playing a bit short and has VP 36 / PR 11 / 3B 2 over only 193 hands
As you can see the table is only 4 handed at this point and one of things I'm trying to work on in my game is my post flop aggression factor and frequency. Both of which are too low. This hand it feels like V is capped at AJ here most of the time. His aggression factor is 4 so I think I would have heard from 5x hands like A5s before the river. He could be slow playing a monster but when he checks river to us it's much less likely he has JJ or 99. I decided to attack his capped range and turn the TT into a bluff since I thought most of the time he shows up with Jx and missed spades that floated flop here since we block some straight draws. Even with his tiny 2% 3 bet stat over the tiny sample QQ+ fall within top 2% and Hero is raising from CO so maybe we can run into a slow played combo or two of AA but we are attempting to target Jx or a sticky under pair.
PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
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BTN: 95.15 BB
SB: 84.63 BB
BB: 76.57 BB
Hero (CO): 255.89 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♦ T♥
Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) J♣ 5♦ 5♠
BB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, fold, BB calls 6 BB
Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 9♠
BB checks, Hero bets 15 BB, BB calls 15 BB
River: (51.5 BB, 2 players) 2♣
BB checks, Hero bets 50 BB
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Hi c0rnBr34d, thank you very much for sharing it. Well, first of all, I would love to say that I am not here to please anyone. If you don't like the way I think, please, feel yourself comfortable not to read it. Without any further duo, there is nothing personal around, no offense given nor taken.
The Preflop
Standard
the postflop
The Flop
Well mate, we can/could be opening possibily something from 15% to 30-35% (or even more) from the CO.
I'm afraid this flop doesn't hit ones's ranges, neither the Hero raisor preflop even less the callers, that almost always call down with dominated ranges.
The problem is given the fact our range is very dynamic, and we are out of position in relation to the button, and the fact that the flop is very dry, plus, Hero goes for 2/3 pot for a 3-way pot, well, all of those actions combined together (raise preflop 3x from Dynamic Position, 3-Way Pot and 2/3 C-bet Flop OOP), are signs that you are mostly holding something like 66+, that are possible pocket pairs that could be 'bluffing' on a flop like this.
For our luck the player in the BTN folds and only the recreational calls. We should not be worried about any of these overthinking, because the players in the blinds is not the philosopher/thinking type of players.
But there will be times that the player in the BTN will perceive this pattern quoted above and will call/float flop/turn to jam you OTR. (counter plau your polarized range).
We do not have significant blockers of anything but T5, JT and given the fact that the BB is not a philosopher player, we must assume that given how dry this flop is it has called this polarized c-bet flop with Jx's types, 5x, types because if we look coldly to this flop, there are no possible bluffs on our range that could be c-betting 2/3 pot:
the 5's doesn't connect to the J's, there are no possible straight draws or flush draws, so the hands that we use to c-bet 2/3 pot are exactly the Jx types, and most of times, overpairs.
We give information twice that we are holding something strong when we 3x raise preflop and when we c-bet 2/3 pot 3-way pot, bloating the pot and trying to put the fish all-in no matter what OTR.
The Turn
Now it opens a straight draw and a flush draw, and if we have hands that need protection such as TPTK, Two Pair we are not going for an easy-call c-bet turn, but for a even more polarized c-bet turn of 100%, 120% pot.
When we go for an overbet OTT is it way more easier to put fish all-in on any river, but when you bet so little OTT, you open the possibility of the fish to fold in the case it suits to it, on many rives that are going to be good for our range and bad for fish's ranges.
Consider that our range is also capped for strong hands, on which we are not going to have in a high frequency from the CO, plus we must ask ourselves if the real nutted hands such as 55 and JJ would be playing like this. Would you?
The hands that play like this OTT, are TPTK, random pocket pairs, two pairs and now the SDs and FDs.
Okay that we are blocking 50% of possible straights, this is huge, but the point it that the fish has a blocked mind and will not fold very easy here.
If you realized you had a tilt and continued playing you are irresponsible in the first place.
It seems to me that in this hand you were still mentally compromissed, as you stated, you realized that you had a tilt and insisted playing when you should quit and cool down you head.
The River
Now it is very easy to fish to told a lot of dominated hands such as 88- and to call you only with Jx and better hands. The price OTR for calling your shove is horrible, because you bet so small OTT with your entire range SDs, FDs, Two Pair, Sets, QQ+, you name it.
If your intention, of course, was to make the fish to call you down. I don't know what was your intention when you push OTR, if you want fo fish to call more often or fold more often.
As fundiver199 stated very well, and also professor John Anhalt, as well. It seems very much that you were still a little bit tilted when you played this hand, far away from your A game.
If you realize that you cannot stop playing when you are getting anger, sad, tired, hotheaded, whatever, leave the tables immediately.
If you cannot leave the tables, look for Responsible Gambling and they will put you on the right track.
Regards;
Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
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Respect and gl always!
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