$100 NLHE 6-max: Line Check on ugly river

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MP: 215.17 BB
CO: 132.83 BB
BTN: 94.17 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 132.83 BB
UTG: 113.83 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ks Kd
fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, CO calls 6 BB

Flop : (17 BB, 2 players) 4s Tc 5h
Hero bets 7.5 BB, CO calls 7.5 BB

Turn : (32 BB, 2 players) 4d
Hero bets 19 BB, CO calls 19 BB

River : (70 BB, 2 players) Ad
Hero checks, CO bets 70 BB, Hero calls 65.5 BB and is all-in


I've marked him as a high vpip whale. Only hand I saw beating us was AT
 
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A very similar hand happened to me once in a live poker, but in the end I ended up folding. I think I played badly, because the chances of the villain having an ace are reduced. In this case the villain could also have KT; QT; QK; 76; 99; JJ. considering that it has a fairly wide opening.
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That river is nasty, but I think I would have called.

To have called 2 streets with a bare Ace high would have been beyond horrible, so I agree with you thinking on AT (and maybe 55).
 
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Shouldn't we bet river? Maybe you can down bet if this guy is a whale. I don't think he'll fold JJ there to a small bet.

As said above, Vs really shouldn't have too many As here after 2 streets. Even whale boy:marchmell
 
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That river is nasty, but I think I would have called.

To have called 2 streets with a bare Ace high would have been beyond horrible, so I agree with you thinking on AT (and maybe 55).
Pretty much this although I'm not sure I actually find the call in real time, maybe most of the time. As usual though I want to know what kind of whale we have before I call. How aggressive is V, especially on the river? How high is high VPIP? We could be dealing with more value combos that just AT and 55 but if he has enough bluffs then it's still a call. I'd like to have more of that info before snapping this off and feeling good about it. V can potentially also have the 1 combo of 44, 1 combo of 54s, 2 combos of 34s, 4 combos of 32s, all of the A4 combos, some other random suited 4x combos, some whales will even show up with A2 and A3 here, etc.
 
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I would probably just fold KK here and call with QQ. Villain can call twice with A2s and A3s because it has a straight draw. Villain may also have AQ which floated twice because it is so hard to make pairs on the board texture.
 
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Nasty spot :D. You give him only AT for value!? A whale!? What about his aggression? Mate, you can see only AT for value, but what about the bluffs!? With which hand he will bluff there? I can't see any...76s...He must shove with some pocket pair. Ot let's say 65s. Or QTs, JTs. This is crazy. I will not expect that from some "whale" very often. Maybe from some very crazy aggro fish. Maybe from some over aggro reg.

I will fold there. I know nothing. A "whale"...
 
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Assuming he bluffs, value jams this range this becomes an easy call imo.
Don't have decent stats on him to get a decent enough read. But I honeslty don't know how often people bluff these spots. In my experience I get owned in these river calls than being good but I still station for whatever reason

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Board: 5h4sTc4dAd
equity Win Tie
MP3 35.85% 35.85% 0.00% { TT-55, ATs, A5s-A4s, T8s+, 76s, ATo }
SB 64.15% 64.15% 0.00% { KdKs }
 
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Given the high vpip I think it's certainly a call because you beat most of his holdings
 
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Yes, i would have called too. He does have a wider range, but due to his stats i don´t think fold was the better option. There is a high chance of him having nothing.
 
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If this guy is a whale, how come you bet kind of small on the flip?
 
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If this guy is a whale, how come you bet kind of small on the flip?


there is no reason to go big on that flop. WE can comfortablly jam river with that flop sizing. We are trying to get calls from his entire range
 
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