$10 NLHE Full Ring: KK facing flop re raise, shove or fold here?

[acky100]

I never know whether we should shove here and take money from the over pairs we beat, or if its an easy fold when villain has a set?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($12.87)
Hero (SB) ($10.05)
BB ($5)
UTG ($4.17)
UTG+1 ($4.50)
MP1 ($8.08)
MP2 ($10.73)
CO ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, K

4 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, 2 folds, Button calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20) 2

, 9

, 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises to $3.40, Hero raises to $9.55 (All-In), Button calls $6.15

Turn: ($20.30) 3

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.30) 6

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.30 | Rake: $1.01

 

[seanDCFC]

Im never folding this, if he has a set so be it.

 

[acky100]

Is this the general feeling by everyone here?

 

[bgomez89]

Any reads

 

[TylerN]

well played

 

[acky100]

No reads unfortunately but i'm sick of this situation popping up and me paying everyone off with their sets, and rarely getting a buyin back off someone with JJ or QQ, was just wondering if it is the right play or if its an obvious warning that the guy has 1 pair beat, thanks

 

[papatango123]

all depends on villain if hes a tight player im folding hes most likely got a set but if its a complete fish get it allin. players at 10nl dont play flush draws this aggressively so hes most likely got a set.

 

[acky100]

I see, thanks, and if we have no reads on an opponent should we just fold here?

 

[forsakenone]

my question is, why don't we have reads here? do you have a HUD? cause if you don't there are free HUDs out there that work just great, PM me is you need a link.

also it might be first hand, if so I would not fold, I would shove just like you did.

 

[Pascal-lf]

Well played

 

[KardKlub]

Yeah I hate these spots, it seems like spew but without reads you have to jam. Then atleast you get a read and there are so many other hands he could of had although it does seem they always have a set!

Does anything change if this is a mono tone board or 8910 or 910j and you have no reads?

 

[papatango123]

Yeah I hate these spots, it seems like spew but without reads you have to jam. Then atleast you get a read and there are so many other hands he could of had although it does seem they always have a set!

Does anything change if this is a mono tone board or 8910 or 910j and you have no reads?

why jam without reads? i would only jam with a read that makes me think he doesnt have a set.

i would rather get out with a $1.50 loss and find a better spot, than lose a buyin.

 

[rssurfer54]

Yeah I hate these spots, it seems like spew but without reads you have to jam. Then atleast you get a read and there are so many other hands he could of had although it does seem they always have a set!

Does anything change if this is a mono tone board or 8910 or 910j and you have no reads?

Those boards are easier to get it in, since villain will call with draws, draws+pair combos that we beat more often.

 

[acky100]

Yeah i am thinking a 1.50 loss without reads would be the best, and thanks for offering the help forsakenone but i do use a hud and everything just at 10NL the pool is so big that often ive never met half the table before

 

[Pascal-lf]

Yeah i am thinking a 1.50 loss without reads would be the best, and thanks for offering the help forsakenone but i do use a hud and everything just at 10NL the pool is so big that often ive never met half the table before

You just can't fold an overpair on this board, seriously. Players will do this with stuff like top pair, flush draws, and TT/JJ. Their range isn't just purely sets.

 

[papatango123]

You just can't fold an overpair on this board, seriously. Players will do this with stuff like top pair, flush draws, and TT/JJ. Their range isn't just purely sets.

so your happy stacking of with 1 pair?

i think they have a set like at least 50% of the time the rest a flush draw so your basically guna lose most of the time . they have tt/jj and top pair so little its definetly -ev to go allin. if villain had stats of 13/10/50 would you still not fold?
i think the only time its profitable to stack of here is against complete fish

 

[Pascal-lf]

Yes I am very happy stacking with one pair.

Where are you getting 50% from?

Players will stack off with top pair here. Sets are hard to make anyway.

 

[papatango123]

players at 10nl are not that agressive with just top pair or flush draws its to often a set.

looks like hes made a set here to me unless you have a specific read to say he hasnt.