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NL Holdem 4(BB)
HJ ($419) [VPIP: 43.4% | PFR: 8% | AGG: 16.8%
maybe I would have made a 3-bet in the pre-flop, by not doing the 3bet in the pre then I think you should have checked on the flop, the fold on the turn seems correct to me after the villain's call on the flop, there is something I do not understand, why the river appears in the post if the hand had already finished?
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re: Poker & $10 NLHE 6-max: TT from sb!
Originally Posted by seeyouthru
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should we 3 bet pre or flat from sb is okay here?
is that a good lead on flop or should i be just checking?
is that a good fold on turn?
Perhaps it is not a great ideia to be raising the playing sitting in the CO position. Acording to your data, it has only 3.3% of 3-bet preflop, and you don't have a paramount stat which is fold to 3-bet preflop.
Another observation about CO stats is that is certainly a passive fish: the gap between VPIP and PFR is deep: 12, plus its aggresion postflop is very passive, being only 21%, or 2% depending on the tracker iti s all the same, this Villain almost never bluffs postflop, and we have a very good sample of hands for decision making preflop, flop and turn.
For River decisions I would not recommend take into account only 1442 hands played, we can make a lot of mistakes, because 1 k and half hands seems a pretty fair number, but for rivers is a very small number: consider river statistics after you have played at least 20 thousands hands with a villain, otherwise, don't even utilize the stat.
OTF is very strange to be c-betting for value or for bluff, we are out of position in relation to at least two other players, and we have a capped range (we don't own JJ+ or AJs+ in situations like this), so I would rather go for c-betting the flop when I have hands like A4, 77 or 44, although 44 could go for checking too.
When we bet OTF with our mid pocket pairs, 88, 99 and TT, out of position, we forget that Villain can be holding JJ, QQ ,etc, so we don't need to protect our hands here, because if one of them raises right OTF we don't know the value of our mid pocket pair anymore, and sometimes we are going to make tons of mistakes because of it.
Considering the stakes you are playing, it is not possible to be folding OTT yet, Villain gave such great odds, and of course it can has the Jx, or one diamond flush, we cannot raise because we don't own the Ten of Diamonds on our range and if Villain insists OTR, giving us no price, we do fold.
If Villain bets again OTR, giving us another good friendly price, we must call right off the bat, because it could be bluffing some missed SD's and FD's, enough to justify our calling.
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Congratulations first on decide you to play NL400. Now going to hand, we have an initial decision with TT. From the way you played the hand, I can sense that you like to play tournaments. TT is a middle hand but blocks many semi-bluff combos like AT; KT; QT; JT. So one way to play it in preflop, is by following a borderline line as you did, since we are in a 4-way pot, and the villains have low frequency of fold equity, so this could be the case of a limp profitable from sb. But if the villains had a lower VPIP, the most standard line for cash games is to defend our position, raising here. Because we are protecting our range and if we only limp, we are letting in high combinations for free that could improve in the post flop.
On the flop we don't need to bet first, because basically we almost never have the nuts here, so our overtaking could be interpreted as a sign of weakness. If you choose this line B on the flop, be sure to choose a smaller size, 1/3 is enough for this flop. But the scenario is not suitable for making the donk bet. Because villains have wide range characteristics and it is more likely that a large size will be comfortably called by these villains, because they will be looking for an exploitative line for this board.
This fold does not seem correct to me on the turn. Let's not forget that we're playing NL400, and the villain BTN with that little bet could cheat with tons of combos here.
A VPIP of 41% could cheat with 2-2; 3-3; 5-5; 6-6; 8-8; 9-9; 5-6s; 6-8s; 8-9s; + flush draw combos, because we don't lock any diamond nuts. I think we should go all the way with our middle pair, as we are playing against a wide range, so our hand has an acceptable ability to catch semi bluffs on the river. I think the most exploitative fold here could be a fifth diamond lane on this board. But I would think about it long before I fold the river anyway