$10 NLHE 6-max: Should I fold AA here?

[IDreamNL]

Hi all,

I just got jammed by a set of fives after a re-raise on the flop. Should I consider folding AA here? Villain is a quite passive fish (Don't know exactlybut FPR anywhere around 10 I believe), but showed some insane bluffs as well. (Only 30 hands tracked though)


pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 ($0.02 ante) - 6 players
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UTG: $13.54 (135 bb)
MP (Hero): $10.00 (100 bb)
CO: $10.00 (100 bb)
BU: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $28.83 (288 bb)
BB: $23.99 (240 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.27) Hero is MP with A♣ A♥
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, 4 players fold, UTG calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.97) 4♦ 5♠ Q♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $0.93, Hero raises to $2.20, UTG raises to $13.17 (all-in), Hero calls $7.43 (all-in)

Turn: ($20.23) J♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($20.23) 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.23 (Rake: $0.91)

Showdown:
UTG shows 5♣ 5♥ (three of a kind, Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 89%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

MP (Hero) shows A♣ A♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 11%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

UTG wins $19.32

 

[Aballinamion]

Hi all,

I just got jammed by a set of fives after a re-raise on the flop. Should I consider folding AA here? Villain is a quite passive fish (Don't know exactlybut FPR anywhere around 10 I believe), but showed some insane bluffs as well. (Only 30 hands tracked though)


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 ($0.02 ante) - 6 players
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UTG: $13.54 (135 bb)
MP (Hero): $10.00 (100 bb)
CO: $10.00 (100 bb)
BU: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $28.83 (288 bb)
BB: $23.99 (240 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.27) Hero is MP with A♣ A♥
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, 4 players fold, UTG calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.97) 4♦ 5♠ Q♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $0.93, Hero raises to $2.20, UTG raises to $13.17 (all-in), Hero calls $7.43 (all-in)

Turn: ($20.23) J♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($20.23) 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.23 (Rake: $0.91)

Showdown:
UTG shows 5♣ 5♥ (three of a kind, Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 89%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

MP (Hero) shows A♣ A♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 11%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

UTG wins $19.32

First question and most important one is why did you raise OTF? You already knew that Villain was a passive fish (bets/raises much more for value than for bluff), then it happens that Fish limps preflop oop, Hero/You raise and fish calls: fish calls with what?
Hands that fish believes that are not good enough for raising, but also too good to be folding: these hands are small and some mid pocket pairs and some broadways and suited connectors.
Before raising OTF because you are holding AA, try to think about the logic of the game, and what led your opponent to donks-polarize the flop.
There is no way of raising here, because we don't expect fish passive to be holding QQ, at maximum AQ (which we are blocking 50% of combos) and KQ, but would the KQ and the Qx be donking on a dry flop like this?
Besides the flush draw and the small straight draw there is nothing.
Conclusion, being a fish, it could have limped preflop with Q5s, Q4s, 44 and 55, the only possible hands that fish is going for such a non-sense donks flop.
If we are going to be raising the donks flop, we are going for jamming, because making a small raise, having information already that Villain is not going to fold is a waste of energy.
I don't think these player is bluffing enough that could justify your re-raise OTF.
We are very sadly calling OTF to fold to a ton of turn double barrel, because if we look very well, this is almost an instant fold OTF.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa

 

[IDreamNL]

Thanks for the analysis! You're totally right. Although I think it was possible for him to donk with KQ or even Qx considering previous plays. The raise was indeed a bad one. And calling his reraise knowing his stats was even worse.

 

[Haze of Spade]

Hi all,

I just got jammed by a set of fives after a re-raise on the flop. Should I consider folding AA here? Villain is a quite passive fish (Don't know exactlybut FPR anywhere around 10 I believe), but showed some insane bluffs as well. (Only 30 hands tracked though)


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 ($0.02 ante) - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: $13.54 (135 bb)
MP (Hero): $10.00 (100 bb)
CO: $10.00 (100 bb)
BU: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $28.83 (288 bb)
BB: $23.99 (240 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.27) Hero is MP with A♣ A♥
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, 4 players fold, UTG calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.97) 4♦ 5♠ Q♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $0.93, Hero raises to $2.20, UTG raises to $13.17 (all-in), Hero calls $7.43 (all-in)

Turn: ($20.23) J♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($20.23) 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.23 (Rake: $0.91)

Showdown:
UTG shows 5♣ 5♥ (three of a kind, Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 89%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

MP (Hero) shows A♣ A♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 11%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

UTG wins $19.32

I think it totally depends on Vs stats. I would either fold or call and even raise if he is that bad. Also i would iso bigger pre.
If he really showed some insane bluffs after 30 hands i snap call lol.

 

[Mercurius]

Yeah there’s two points here but the first one is most important and the one that has most impact on win rate:

- Stop trying to play for stacks every time you have AA! This has plugged my biggest leak. If you can get it all in PF because they’re aggressive and will reraise you that’s fine but if not play it as a normal hand, ultimately you only have a pair, it isn’t some world beater. I used to be the same and think QQ+, AKs “deserved to win” any hand so would play for stacks regardless of the villains actions and the board, which is a huge leak

- As Carlos said, you need to think more about your action when betting / raising. The obvious question is what weaker hands will actually call your raise? Probably only an AXs combo but he’s not shoving that unless hyper aggressive / fish. You should call and extract 1/2 pot bets minimum on each street to pick up say 40BBs from him but if the aggression ramps up or the board comes unfavourably be willing to fold.