$10 NLHE 6-max: Overbet on river in 3 bet pot, we have straight

[Rajten]

Hello everyone, I had very interesting hand with, curious opponent. He was playing very loose and aggresive, but he wasn't maniac, generally villain was playing in very creative way, and he dominated our passive table.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker - https://upswingpoker.com/replayer/49A5dzZEw

Player3 (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $16.29 (163 bb)
Player5 (CO): $10.00 (100 bb)
Player6 (BU): $48.22 (482 bb)
Player1 (SB): $9.95 (100 bb)
Player2 (BB): $9.94 (99 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is MP with 8♥ 8♠
1 fold, Hero (MP) raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Player6 (BU) 3-bets to $0.50, 2 players fold, Hero (MP) calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.15) J♠ 7♠ T♥ (2 players)
Hero (MP) checks, Player6 (BU) checks

Turn: ($1.15) J♥ (2 players)
Hero (MP) checks, Player6 (BU) bets $1.10, Hero (MP) calls $1.10

River: ($3.35) 9♣ (2 players)
Hero (MP) checks, Player6 (BU) bets $5, Hero (MP) calls $5

Would you play it the same?

 

[gustav197poker]

In preflop it is acceptable that we call the villain's minimum raise, but we should know that if he had a strong hand he would probably choose a larger size. On the flop the board texture is wet and a protection check could be understood by the positions being played (MP x BTN).
On the turn things get interesting. The villain's back bet is of a significant size (almost a pot bet). At this point we must estimate the hands that beat us versus the bluffs that this V could have.

Combos that beat us on the turn:
8 JQ + 8 JK + 8 JA = 24c
12 AT + 12 KT = 24 c. A total of 48 combos that defeat us.
Combos Semi bluffs that the villain could have on the turn:
16 AK + 16 KQ + 10 flush draw combos = 42 combos.

As we can see the villain has many hands that could defeat us on the turn, so the fold would be a very close option for NL10.
Hero's reason for continuing here could be justified in readings he has regarding the BTN. For example: we can justify a call on the turn if we believe that V is of very wide range and could bluff a hand like A-7.
If we continue on the turn we should call on the river. Because now in addition to the failed draws, we are above many combinations of value that previously defeated us. In addition, with our turn call we committed ourselves to this pot, therefore it would be a long-term mathematical mistake to fold on the river with the top of our range.
Greetings.

 

[greatgame230]

hi the pre-flop was well played, I would have expected the villain to do a cbet on the flop and when checking this it licks my attention, I don't think he would have done a 3bet with JT or J8 then his bet on the turn it seems kind of risky and then I would have called the $ 5 on the turn with the straight

 

[Aballinamion]

Hello everyone, I had very interesting hand with, curious opponent. He was playing very loose and aggresive, but he wasn't maniac, generally villain was playing in very creative way, and he dominated our passive table.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker - https://upswingpoker.com/replayer/49A5dzZEw

Player3 (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $16.29 (163 bb)
Player5 (CO): $10.00 (100 bb)
Player6 (BU): $48.22 (482 bb)
Player1 (SB): $9.95 (100 bb)
Player2 (BB): $9.94 (99 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is MP with 8♥ 8♠
1 fold, Hero (MP) raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Player6 (BU) 3-bets to $0.50, 2 players fold, Hero (MP) calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.15) J♠ 7♠ T♥ (2 players)
Hero (MP) checks, Player6 (BU) checks

Turn: ($1.15) J♥ (2 players)
Hero (MP) checks, Player6 (BU) bets $1.10, Hero (MP) calls $1.10

River: ($3.35) 9♣ (2 players)
Hero (MP) checks, Player6 (BU) bets $5, Hero (MP) calls $5

Would you play it the same?

Nope, with so little information what we can assume is that Player 6/BTN is very weak, and the tells are its ridiculous 3-bet preflop (less than min-raise).
We cannot fold to so cheap a 3-bet like this with hands like pocket pairs (88) but we also cannot 4-bet right here, not even against a maniac player.
OTF it is okay to be checking and so does Villain, but this doesn't mean that it has nothing on its range: hands that are checking the flop are hands that completely missed the flop, underpairs such as 88, 66, etc, and the heavy values also the same such as 77, TT and JJ.
OTT it is strange to be mucking our hands yet because we are still drawing a little, but OTR, given the sizing used for Villain, clear fold, because it can has JT, J9, maybe even J7s, 77, TT, 99 and (rare) JJ.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa