$10 NLHE 6-max: Co vs Bu 3 bet pot, open ended on flop

[Rajten]

no-stars on villain.
How would you play it, I was considering c/r flop, but i choose passive way. On turn when board paired, I conceded.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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Player3 (UTG): $12.01 (120 bb)
Player4 (MP): $12.50 (125 bb)
Hero (CO): $10.00 (100 bb)
Player6 (BU): $10.39 (104 bb)
Player1 (SB): $10.05 (101 bb)
Player2 (BB): $16.91 (169 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is CO with A♥ Q♥
2 players fold, Hero (CO) raises to $0.30, Player6 (BU) 3-bets to $0.90, 2 players fold, Hero (CO) calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) T♣ 9♠ J♥ (2 players)
Hero (CO) checks, Player6 (BU) bets $0.75, Hero (CO) calls $0.75

Turn: ($3.45) J♦ (2 players)
Hero (CO) checks, Player6 (BU) bets $2.15, Hero (CO) folds

Total pot: $3.45 (Rake: $0.17)
Player6 (BU) wins $3.28

 

[Aballinamion]

no-stars on villain.
How would you play it, I was considering c/r flop, but i choose passive way. On turn when board paired, I conceded.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker - https://upswingpoker.com/convert

Player3 (UTG): $12.01 (120 bb)
Player4 (MP): $12.50 (125 bb)
Hero (CO): $10.00 (100 bb)
Player6 (BU): $10.39 (104 bb)
Player1 (SB): $10.05 (101 bb)
Player2 (BB): $16.91 (169 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is CO with A♥ Q♥
2 players fold, Hero (CO) raises to $0.30, Player6 (BU) 3-bets to $0.90, 2 players fold, Hero (CO) calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) T♣ 9♠ J♥ (2 players)
Hero (CO) checks, Player6 (BU) bets $0.75, Hero (CO) calls $0.75

Turn: ($3.45) J♦ (2 players)
Hero (CO) checks, Player6 (BU) bets $2.15, Hero (CO) folds

Total pot: $3.45 (Rake: $0.17)
Player6 (BU) wins $3.28

If the player sitting in the BTN is not a NIT one, and even some very strong TAGs, we should be 4-betting AQs, for value versus BTN very much often than the other hand where you had AKs you had position and with AQs we don't have position postflop, so the call is not so good as the 4-bet.
If the player in the BTN elects to 5-bet jam we can still safely look down our stacks, our hand history, the perceived range mine and from Villain ,etc and make the best decision whether is a fold or a call.
This is a very good scenario for a 4-bet for Value with AQs because we expect BTN to be 3-betting/Stealing versus CO in a very high frequency with hands like A2s, KJs, JTs, QTs, you name it.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa

 

[Julez97]

In my opinion, your line was too passive. Pre-flop, I would have at least considered coming in for a 4-bet given that you are out of position, with good blockers, and a strong hand. Calling is still plus EV.

On the flop, I think you want to be raising here a good percentage of the time. Given the stakes, Id bet that you have more sets, straights, and two pair in your range than villain. The typical 10NL player doesn't 3-bet hands like 99, TT, J9, JT, KQ, 78, as often as they probably should. So you can easily have more nutted combos in this spot. Not to mention big draws like QJs, 98s, KJs, AQs. I think villains 3-bet range is going to looks more like AK, AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AQ, AJs, ATs, A5s. Check-raising AQs here is going to put his range into a very tough spot, where he probably has to fold a lot of turns and rivers.

Again, I think you had a really good opportunity to raise the turn, either by leading out, or check raising. The J is a way better card for you. Unless villain has quads, he shouldn't hit this card very often, while it smashes your range. I think the aggressive line probably wins you this hand.

 

[Sidetracked]

Given the CO/BU dynamic, I do think a Jack could be in villain's range.

Also, I don't think folding a straight draw when the board pairs is massively negative EV.

If you 4 bet AQ preflop, will you call a 5 bet jam? I don't think that getting a stack in preflop with AQ is very good without very specific reads on villain.

 

[Alex_Ogienko]

1. It is better to bet 4bet preflop. 2. The flop is better to check-raise. So we will better understand where we are.