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This from a tournament in a local casino nearby
Buyin: $60
$15,000 GTD
I played good from start til the end.
6 players remaining and I was dealt aces with I think 18BB in the small blind where everyone folds.
I am thinking on shoving against Big blind with like 30 to 35 BB.
I decided to shove against him and he tank and called with K6
Board came KK8JT and I lost.
What do you think is the right decision?Should I just min raise or limp to trap him. Or he had the worst decision and just got lucky?
 
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is a right decision for me, the BB guy just had lucky
 
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It was the right decision, just his luck.
 
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A min raise with a small stack looks suspicious. Your shove was correct because the other players should already be putting you on a wide range and are more likely to call you with weaker hands. You just got unlucky. It happens. Did you at least cash ? Given the buy-in and guaranteed payout, you should have.
 
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kowrip said:
A min raise with a small stack looks suspicious. Your shove was correct because the other players should already be putting you on a wide range and are more likely to call you with weaker hands. You just got unlucky. It happens. Did you at least cash ? Given the buy-in and guaranteed payout, you should have.
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Yes i cashed but i know i can cash much higher but yes,unlucky
 
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I think this is the right decision, that guy was just lucky.
 
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Right decision. Not know the suits. AA against K6 will win about 87% of the time.
 
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Vander44 said:
Right decision. Not know the suits. AA against K6 will win about 87% of the time.
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I really think he doesn't know about ICM. Even with a min raise K6o is an easy fold
 
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Right decision with AA. He lost the mind, no fear and called with K6.
 
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His decision was debatable and lucky.
 
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He was lucky.
He made trips on paired board.
Have to think when dealt Aa either going to double or bust.
If you limp to trap.He will bet the trip kings or trap.At least that way you can get away from AA on the flop .Remember tournament = Icm .
 
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Your decision was very correct. A bad chance did not give you the opportunity to win a pot.
 
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This is the worst tournament I played in my entire life. I even cry after this tourney after playing the best I can do. And after all of that, Aces were cracked and I am out of the game
 
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Decision was right but luck wasn't on your side. Next time buddy. :eek:
 
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canfoldaces said:
This is the worst tournament I played in my entire life. I even cry after this tourney after playing the best I can do. And after all of that, Aces were cracked and I am out of the game
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This seems a little dramatic. You made the final table of a large tournament that should feel good. It always sucks to bust out when there's a lot of money up top but to call it the worst tournament you played in your life seems like a reach. You would really rather get AA cracked before the money bubble?

Also with 18 BB I think jamming vs a random BB is an overplay most times. It's fine if this guy is a station and will call off as wide as he did here. But you didn't give much description of the V so I'm not sure. I'd expect folds from everything except stronger Ax and decent pairs here. If we make it 2-2.5 BB we can get a lot more pre flop calls and maybe even a raise. We also give ourselves a chance to get away from bad flops. Maybe it comes KQJ all diamonds and our AA is clubs and spades and V enthusiastically raises / jams flop. Or this board when we c-bet 3 BB into the 5 BB pot and he jams maybe we can find a fold. Our image and villain's image both matter. But we got the result we wanted anyway pre flop. He just made a horrible call and got lucky. Nothing you can do about that.
 
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c0rnBr34d said:
This seems a little dramatic. You made the final table of a large tournament that should feel good. It always sucks to bust out when there's a lot of money up top but to call it the worst tournament you played in your life seems like a reach. You would really rather get AA cracked before the money bubble?

Also with 18 BB I think jamming vs a random BB is an overplay most times. It's fine if this guy is a station and will call off as wide as he did here. But you didn't give much description of the V so I'm not sure. I'd expect folds from everything except stronger Ax and decent pairs here. If we make it 2-2.5 BB we can get a lot more pre flop calls and maybe even a raise. We also give ourselves a chance to get away from bad flops. Maybe it comes KQJ all diamonds and our AA is clubs and spades and V enthusiastically raises / jams flop. Or this board when we c-bet 3 BB into the 5 BB pot and he jams maybe we can find a fold. Our image and villain's image both matter. But we got the result we wanted anyway pre flop. He just made a horrible call and got lucky. Nothing you can do about that.
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You have a point.
 
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Rest assured you made the correct play...your opponent had no business calling; he made a horrible call, but he got lucky...most of the time, you will win with pocket aces...
 
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Your mini-raise has ruined you. You let him see the flop very cheaply and the player got his card. Another thing is when you go preflop all-in and you are accepted on K6o. In this case, if he has a short stack, his decision is correct. So this is just a game moment. Remember how lucky you are and how many players you knocked out on the river.)) Good luck!
 
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akgross said:
Your mini-raise has ruined you. You let him see the flop very cheaply and the player got his card. Another thing is when you go preflop all-in and you are accepted on K6o. In this case, if he has a short stack, his decision is correct. So this is just a game moment. Remember how lucky you are and how many players you knocked out on the river.)) Good luck!
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It's the final table bro, you know ICM?
 
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It'd help to know all of the stack sizes remaining in the tourney & the payouts.
As far as what is optimal in this spot... it depends. On 18bb's I'm assuming we WANT villain to get their chips in vs. us here (unless there's like 3 stacks with <5bb's each and it's only paying out top 5 or something).
I think open-shoving is best & probably going to get called off the widest in BvB spot... but it really is player dependent & situationally dependent too. (ie. maybe you've limped BvB a few times previously.. if so.. might be a good spot to do so again in hopes of LRRAI as the 18bb stack sets up for that decently). Maybe you've been raising BvB the past few orbits. If so... I'd do that again in this spot.

Yah.. so my answer 'it depends', lol. But nothing to complain about and hardly warrants a question when you're able to get the player to call you w K6 in this spot.
'nh' 'gg'
 
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Shows us that we need to be very careful that stage of the game.I think a 3-bet would be perfect here,might be all-in still to a pre-flop reraise but that extra caution when that deep couldve shown you the KK flop giving a chance to get out.The shove couldnt be called bad play as the reward was worth the risk...and so unlucky.Better luck nxt one ;)
 
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