even pros make mistakes

I was recently watching the 2018 wsop at a later stage in the tourney, I think it was day 5 and Phil Ivey was crushing it. Then in one hand he bluff shipped it all in at a point in which I thought for sure he was going to lay it down. Now im not going to sit here and say what he did was wrong because maybe he thought it was the right decision in the moment because he watched this guy all day, my point is that even pros who are making super deep runs in big tournaments can blow there stack and not to get discouraged but to try and learn from the mistakes to make a better decision the next time your in that spot to hopefully make the right moves to help add to your success. Poker can be brutal and unforgiving but it can also be fun and easy if you have a great balance in your life before you focus on the game give yourself time to be healthy and happy and that will usually translate to success on the tables. Even the great Phil Ivey has bad days but im sure he learns the most he can about why that happened to fix it the next time around.

of course they are humans too and make bad decitions sometimes

In a game where luck is a larger component than in other activities or sports, an educated guess (when made by pros...for amateurs, it's a huge gamble) is sometimes necessary. But, guesses are still just that....educated or otherwise, so a seasoned pro can look like an amateur at times.

It was not Phil's best move but is that only because it didn't work? I'm sure he was 100% convinced it would work. Even the best take a misstep and that is just poker, nobody is right all the time.

Everyone makes mistakes everyday. Successful professionals learn to make less of them.

Statistics of Daniel Negreanu at the WSOP-2018:
tournaments played - 32
buy-ins - $ 1.505.000
prize-winning sum - $ 111.103
profit - $ -1.393.897
I respect Nergian very much, I consider him one of the best players. And when I see such results, then I take it easy to lose. All make mistakes, but good players do them less often.

When a pro does something stupid, it's not a mistake, it an acceptable risk.

paulwall said:

I was recently watching the 2018 wsop at a later stage in the tourney, I think it was day 5 and Phil Ivey was crushing it. Then in one hand he bluff shipped it all in at a point in which I thought for sure he was going to lay it down. Now im not going to sit here and say what he did was wrong because maybe he thought it was the right decision in the moment because he watched this guy all day, my point is that even pros who are making super deep runs in big tournaments can blow there stack and not to get discouraged but to try and learn from the mistakes to make a better decision the next time your in that spot to hopefully make the right moves to help add to your success. Poker can be brutal and unforgiving but it can also be fun and easy if you have a great balance in your life before you focus on the game give yourself time to be healthy and happy and that will usually translate to success on the tables. Even the great Phil Ivey has bad days but im sure he learns the most he can about why that happened to fix it the next time around.

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Yeah, definitely. The most qualified professionals in any field occasionally make mistakes. However, when they do so, they tend to patch up those leaks quicker then the rest. Resilience is a key factor in fostering success! Thank you for your post! Truth and positivity

8bod8 said:

When a pro does something stupid, it's not a mistake, it an acceptable risk.

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This is a good point. The hand described where Ivey donked off his chips (>100bb) was in the $10k Main Event buy in on Day 4 after the money bubble had burst. Ivey's interesting "acceptable risk" differentiator is that he has many, MANY, more buy-ins (and likely backers to insure many more) than the average poker player. Ivey busted the Main Event that day 547th cashing for $23,940. If he had outlasted 5 more players - he would have leveled up to $26,535 (+$2595).

I don't have one $10k buy-in in my live bankroll; therefore, shipping it all in the Main Event on a bluff with >100bbs is not an "acceptable risk" for me UNLESS I am 99.5% sure my opponent will fold. In my position it would likely be a smarter play to level up; after all $2595 is one quarter of a buy in for next year's main event!

That said - I imagine Phil Ivey is probably REALLY SCARY to play against and he will likely get a lot of folds in the scenario (straight & flush was possible) against those with lesser skills than his own. For Ivey, this was probably an acceptable risk, not a mistake.

I remember the winning hand that Phil Ivey mucked at WSOP 2009.

mistakes

the difference between a pro making a mistake and a novice is easy, the one that is willing to tell you about it.
Robert

the first thing i thought of when i read the thread title was ivey mucking a winning flush in a wsop event.

In context these are mental endurance competitions. You never know if you have a final table or even an 1st place entry in an MTT. I think Ivey made the Sin of Sins bluffing all in an MTT WSOP. He could have had a 1st place run.....the game is savage when it get to day 5.

I'v played for 35 hours straight at a wild game at the Kansas City Casino and I was dead tired after that marathon play.