How is china able to play ?

#1 January 6th, 2020, 1:05 AM

I notice on pokerstar there is players in china how is that possible they are not able to access the real internet,

#2 January 6th, 2020, 1:10 AM

Here is some info on this:

https://www.americascardroom.eu/poke...site-in-china/

#3 November 17th, 2020, 8:59 AM

It says that Pokerstars was doing business with China as Red Dragon Poker!

#4 November 17th, 2020, 9:17 AM

Originally Posted by mkdrummey

I notice on pokerstar there is players in china how is that possible they are not able to access the real internet,

Actually the real strange situation for me when people can not play in one room but without any problem play in other ones. Like players from China can play in GG but can not in PS and 888 poker. In my opinion, it should be equal regulation for that.

#5 November 17th, 2020, 10:10 AM

They have the ability to access the Internet. There is information on the Internet about hackers breaking into crypto exchanges.

#6 November 17th, 2020, 8:46 PM

I have never seen any players from China in any poker-rooms, but it would not surprise me if China and Pokerstars made a deal to allow people form China to play poker on PS.

#7 November 18th, 2020, 12:53 AM

I believe this a misconception.

China is pretty strict about not just the internet, but international poker sites. Poker is illegal. No doubt many Chinese residents use VPNs to get around the issue but they are not going to show up as players from 'China'.

However, the few that do show as registered in China appear to have been playing from Hong Kong. That situation might well change soon due to the political upheavals.

Regarding GG Poker and its Asian 'base' - I presume many Chinese play on GG but if you attempt to find details on the matter things get very hazy very quickly.

#8 November 18th, 2020, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by James24543

Here is some info on this:

https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-blog/2019/05/pokerstars-admits-to-running-illegal-poker-site-in-china/

Kind of funny that ACR accuse PokerStars of being involved in unregulated sites, when they are such an unregulated site themselfes. Online poker is no more legal in the US, than it is in China How is china able to play ?

#9 November 18th, 2020, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by DS3

I believe this a misconception.

China is pretty strict about not just the internet, but international poker sites. Poker is illegal. No doubt many Chinese residents use VPNs to get around the issue but they are not going to show up as players from 'China'.

However, the few that do show as registered in China appear to have been playing from Hong Kong. That situation might well change soon due to the political upheavals.

Regarding GG Poker and its Asian 'base' - I presume many Chinese play on GG but if you attempt to find details on the matter things get very hazy very quickly.

Moreover as in other countries the legislation in China is not specifically about online poker, its about online gambling in general. And as we know governments and the general public tend to view poker as gambling. There are a lot of rich people in China now, and unsurpricingly a fair number of them like to gamble. So this has led to a huge black market. I have heard, it has even become a diplomatic issue between China and Philippines, because apparently a lot of companies use Philippines as a base for offering online gambling to customers in China.

#10 November 18th, 2020, 5:14 PM

Being from the US,i just dont understand why our goverment doesnt make poker legal.All the illegal stuff that goes on in a lot of poker sites,and us being limited to what sites will allow us to play,makes no sense to me.Make it legal,regulate it just like the casinos and horse races,and everyone should be happy.

#11 November 18th, 2020, 8:28 PM

Originally Posted by fundiver199

Moreover as in other countries the legislation in China is not specifically about online poker, its about online gambling in general. And as we know governments and the general public tend to view poker as gambling. There are a lot of rich people in China now, and unsurpricingly a fair number of them like to gamble. So this has led to a huge black market. I have heard, it has even become a diplomatic issue between China and Philippines, because apparently a lot of companies use Philippines as a base for offering online gambling to customers in China.

Yes gambling and the attitude of individual governments across Asia is baffling at times. As you note gambling (not just poker) is officially illegal in China but a massive underground enterprise nonetheless (a similar situation to countries such as Thailand).

Singapore is a strange hybrid situation where they permit a limited amount of local gambling but then allowed Sheldon Adelson to open Marina Bay Sands Hotel and Casino. That casino caters almost exclusively to Chinese tourists who are on a circuit tour of Asia (say Thailand, Singapore then Hong Kong for several days each). If Singaporeans use the casino they must enter with at least S$100 (to deter locals gambling regularly). Chinese constitute the majority of the guests who are then encouraged to use the casino which by design offers a limited number of games - it strikes me as a sort of 'Disney' version of a casino...a theme park more than a casino itself.

Then of course you have Macau which is and has been a hardcore Chinese gambling mecca for decades...

#12 November 18th, 2020, 8:32 PM

Originally Posted by mkdrummey

I notice on pokerstar there is players in china how is that possible they are not able to access the real internet,

Only high members of Chinese Communists Party and some mayors of big cities are allowed to play.

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