Ultimate Poker Shuts Down in Nevada

curtinsea

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I personally do not see this as that much of an issue, at least as far as the big picture is concerned.

For starters, UP tried to initiate their own platform, existing not just wholly within the US, but only in two very small markets. Unlike their international competition, they had very little chance of sustaining losses while waiting on the rest of the US to get regulations passed. Starting from scratch in such a limited market was doomed from the get go, IMHO.

Also, with the exceptions of NY and CA, states are not going to support more than two, maybe three, individual platforms. There just isn't the liquidity necessary to sustain games across so many platforms, even sharing across state lines.

Then there is the issue of a poorly run (many are arguing this, I'm not an insider, but I'm inclined to believe some of those making the claim) company simply failing in a market with very thin (actually, none at present) profit margins. This happens all the time in the business world, it shouldn't be seen as any real shocker.

Nevada, unfortunately, does not have the liquidity needed to sustain intrastate internet poker, and without movement in other states soon, we will see other sites cease operations there. New Jersey is in a bit better shape, with a larger population and casino games from which to profit.

Hopefully some other states act next year, and we will see some interstate agreements. It will be interesting to see who wins, NV or NJ, in becoming the 'hub' of internet poker in the US.
 
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RIP. Did we ever get a decent review of the software and the player experience?
 
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Once upon a time, it was widely believed that running an online poker site was a license to print money. Over the past few years it has become pretty clear that is not the case.
 
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As long as the player base is small, I don't see multiple sites being able to survive.
 
IM deusXmachina

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WSOP.COM in NJ

WSOP.com seems to be doing well in Nevada.

I feel like WSOP.com has one of the best platforms in NJ also. Borgata.com and partypoker.com (both owned by the Borgata) appear to be their big competition. Not sure how they might be doing in LV

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Ultimate Poker is shutting down it's operations in Nevada today. You can read more here:

https://www.cardschat.com/news/ultimate-poker-shuts-online-poker-site-nevada-8174

This is not great news for those of us hoping to see things improve in the US.

Dakota,
I am not sure if this is really an issue that should worry us as OLP's - companies come in, spend tons of money advertising, and don't meet their projected goals that they originally set forth in their start up business plans. Take a look at the Revel casino in Atlantic City. Barely open a couple of years and already claiming bankruptcy.

Sounds like UB put up the start up money, and they are not getting the draw they require from the limited market due to lack of intrastate play in the US. Boom, hard shut down as far as their business model goes, they don't make money for a few months, PULL THE PLUG!

They will not be the last in NV, NJ or any other state offering limited statewide player availability to close up shop.

IMO

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Actually, I think that this is not true, because if it was true then the news would have spread rapidly. So I guess all the Nevada members can chill and enjoy.
 
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