Stars pro Isaac Haxton talks about cheating

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when will the cheating end?????
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=47815917&postcount=3114

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I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond to this thread. Because this is under review by PokerStars, I need to include them in anything I say in public, which took more time than I had hoped.

First of all, I'd like to thank Bakes for having the courage to be the guy to start the public conversation about the NoelHayes account. That decision comes with risks and headaches that no one else was willing to take on. Anyone who cares about the integrity of high stakes games online should be thankful to him.

What he has said about me in this thread is true. In early May I became aware that Hastings was playing on the NoelHayes account and I didn't do anything about it. I was far from the first or only person who knew, but due to my relationship with Stars I had a greater responsibility to act and I was better situated to get something done quickly had I tried. I regret taking the apathetic and irresponsible route and if I find myself in a similar position in the future I will report the cheating immediately. I apologize to anyone who was adversely affected by my inaction.

Due to my relationship with PokerStars and the fact that there is still an ongoing review of the NoelHayes account, I will be somewhat constrained in what I can say in the future, but I’m happy to now be able to post this reply.
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Thanks for starting this thread, I will need time to read thru the main thread but just one quick question.

What is your relationship with stars?

edit: WOW, 218 pages, looks like it'll take a while to read it
 
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well, thats mroe disapoointing news if true...... i was jsut wathing old POker after dark last ntie,, and it was episode with brian hastings playing PLO cash too......thats a long thread to read thru on 2 plus 2,, but hope they get that prob taken care of for every1 who can play at stars too
 
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First the incident with Isildur1 at Full Tilt with Townsend and Cole South and now this? I think this guy has no respect at all for nothing.
 
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"I didn't read the original post but what was his cheating? Playing in 2 accounts or anything even more dangerous like using any/some bot?

Thank you!"

Sorry for noobie questioning. Just found the original thread and the comments in It.. Sad coming from a pro poker player. We're trying to fix the concept of Poker as an Sport here in brazil and knowing these things just make me wonder. What if our government reads about this? One more argument for them to try to stop poker activities here..
 
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i dont understand, whos cheating on poker and how ? by using multiple accounts ? ..

i will try to read part of this huge thread :S
 
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Thanks for starting this thread, I will need time to read thru the main thread but just one quick question.

What is your relationship with stars?

edit: WOW, 218 pages, looks like it'll take a while to read it

It is not him
 
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this guy only cares about his own bottom line hes a cheat he thinks he can do what he wants and there will be nothing done about it every site should ban him a lot of people play live poker in vegas he should know better.
 
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I almost had a heart attack. I thought the thread title read "Isaac Haxton caught cheating". That guy is too good to need to cheat.
 
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Think a lot of high stakes players knew what was going on. I'm sure Ike is not the only person from pokerstars who knew about this. Seems very fishy to me but really unaware what they can do apart from ban accounts and like what Luke Schwarz has done, just create another
 
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Hastings is a scumbag, once a cheat always a cheat.
 
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I almost had a heart attack. I thought the thread title read "Isaac Haxton caught cheating". That guy is too good to need to cheat.

naw... it's only 'Brian Hastings' they're referring too... just the #2 ranked in POY wsop 2015.
 
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Really Brian is only one of a whole bunch of people caught cheating in online poker google it up and check out the names like Justin, Sorrel, Phil, Mike and Annie just to name a few. Yup do an in depth research it will amaze you to say the least.
 
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Kindof semi-cheating, not really multiaccounting - because he justed wanted to play (as an us citizen) and bought this Noel Hayes account and used vpn tricks or something.

The problem is, some guys knew, it was Hastings and some not - and that gave some players like Haxton an edge.
 
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Kindof semi-cheating, not really multiaccounting - because he justed wanted to play (as an us citizen) and bought this Noel Hayes account and used vpn tricks or something.

The problem is, some guys knew, it was Hastings and some not - and that gave some players like Haxton an edge.

it s not semi cheating , but simple cheating and fraud. he shd be blacklisted for ever and being ban by all online sites
 
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You are going to have cheating players every site you play on. What makes the difference are the honest players leveling the playing field by detecting collusion and reporting it.
 
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I dealt to him at WSOP 2015, he is a tool just like Helmuth, but in a different way.
 
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Old thread of an even older story. Nothing new here.
 
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when will the cheating end?????
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=47815917&postcount=3114

from 2+2 forums. original link above

I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond to this thread. Because this is under review by PokerStars, I need to include them in anything I say in public, which took more time than I had hoped.

First of all, I'd like to thank Bakes for having the courage to be the guy to start the public conversation about the NoelHayes account. That decision comes with risks and headaches that no one else was willing to take on. Anyone who cares about the integrity of high stakes games online should be thankful to him.

What he has said about me in this thread is true. In early May I became aware that Hastings was playing on the NoelHayes account and I didn't do anything about it. I was far from the first or only person who knew, but due to my relationship with Stars I had a greater responsibility to act and I was better situated to get something done quickly had I tried. I regret taking the apathetic and irresponsible route and if I find myself in a similar position in the future I will report the cheating immediately. I apologize to anyone who was adversely affected by my inaction.

Due to my relationship with PokerStars and the fact that there is still an ongoing review of the NoelHayes account, I will be somewhat constrained in what I can say in the future, but I’m happy to now be able to post this reply. :(


The Full Tilt scandal & the poker stars scandal & this guy is not labeled a "CHEAT" is beyond inexplicable. Why hasn't the self-proclaimed "ambassador" of poker & Poker Stars pro ever spoke out against this cheat?
 
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The thread is a bit long but for what I understand it is a shame this can happen. But everywhere money is involved people will try ti find ways to cheat, steel or rob it. Hope there will be a way to prevent this from happening in the future.
 
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How do you detect online collusion
 
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Kindof semi-cheating, not really multiaccounting - because he justed wanted to play (as an us citizen) and bought this Noel Hayes account and used vpn tricks or something.



The problem is, some guys knew, it was Hastings and some not - and that gave some players like Haxton an edge.


Illegal to have more then one account by site. Hi know I was caught but did know that I learn from my mistake. And I agree whit your last Word
 
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