Response from White House on Online Gambling

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Official White House Response to protect consumers, create jobs and generate revenue by licensing and regulating online poker.
What We Have to Say About Online Poker

By Brian Deese
Thank you for taking the time to participate in the "We the People" petition process. We launched this online tool as a way of hearing directly from you, and are pleased to see that it has been effective in soliciting your feedback. We understand your interest in the petition to support the legalization of online poker, and appreciate the opportunity to share President Obama's concerns about this issue.
The Administration understands that many Americans engage in paid online poker games for entertainment purposes. Online gambling on sporting events or contests violates federal law. The legality of other forms of online gambling is dependent upon the law of the states where the bettor or gambling business is located. It is left to each state to determine whether it wishes to permit such activity between its residents and an online poker business authorized by that state to accept such wagers, but online gambling that is not authorized by state law may also violate federal statutes.
The rapid and anonymous nature of the internet distinguishes online games from onsite games, such as those in casinos, and creates distinct challenges. For example, there are many means of technologically circumventing restrictions on online gambling that can allow individuals from countries where gambling is illegal -- or even minors -- to play using real currency. Online games also have greater potential for fraud because gambling websites are much cheaper and easier to establish than on-site locations, and like telemarketing scams, can appear and disappear overnight. Finally, online gambling can be used in money laundering schemes because of the volume, speed, anonymity, and international reach made possible by internet transactions. The Administration will continue to examine this issue and is open to solutions that would help guard against the use of online gambling sites as tools for conducting illegal activities or preying on unsuspecting individuals to the extent that online gambling is permitted.
Thank you once again for signing the online petition. We appreciate hearing your opinions and look forward to hearing from you again soon.
Brian Deese is Deputy Director of the National Economic Council
Tell us what you think about this petition response and We the People.


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/re...um=PokerPetitionResponseLink&utm_campaign=OPC
 
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Subbing.

On first read, it seems that a stance of "it can be taken advantage of" is a reason to not support online poker, well.....

Gee, we may as well forget the internet as a whole then......
 
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this looks like a real let down for u guys in usa. looks like they got all the excuses going not to allow online poker. but what about the football and basket ball, horse racing ect thats ok
 
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this looks like a real let down for u guys in usa. looks like they got all the excuses going not to allow online poker. but what about the football and basket ball, horse racing ect thats ok
That's online gambling and is illegal, but they are not stopping it.:confused:
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What an absolute ridiculous response... Since lottery tickets are now allowed to be purchased on line in many states what stops children from making the purchase?

Oh... wait... I have heard the safeguard here. The winning ticket must be presented and then it would be determined the winner is underage... Ha Ha... the child only need to get an adult to claim the winnings.

Requiring documentation as to age and residence is certainly very easy to do... oh wait isn't that required when one cashes out online now??

Ridiculous response indeed!!!
 
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The Administration understands that many Americans engage in paid online poker games for entertainment purposes. Online gambling on sporting events or contests violates federal law. The legality of other forms of online gambling is dependent upon the law of the states where the bettor or gambling business is located. It is left to each state to determine whether it wishes to permit such activity between its residents and an online poker business authorized by that state to accept such wagers, but online gambling that is not authorized by state law may also violate federal statutes.


I guess we have yet another reason for everybody to come visit beautiful Nevada.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-news-events-63/party-poker-first-nevada-215208/

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I remember the story in the OP from over a year ago.
 
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Send them this tweet (i added the bit about poker)
''To the Republicans who said they will move to Australia if Obama won: Australia has universal healthcare, compulsory voting, no guns, no death penalty, pro-choice when it comes to contraception, openly gay politicians and judges, evolution is taught in all schools and our female Prime Minister is an unmarried atheist. Be sure to declare your pitchforks at the Immigration Counter" And we can still play online poker......
 
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our government cant even work out a resolution to the fiscal cliff at the moment much less do anything with online poker.

since non of this stuff effects them directly, I'm convinced nothing will change for quite some time.
 
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Seems our American Government is taking the stance on online poker they have taken on sports betting. Online= not acceptable. On land , taxed and regulated= Acceptable.
 
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You are doing a great job, I am still concerned about trying to get my money out of Full Tilt. Going through the government just does not seem the wise way to go. Any suggestions?
 
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I'm still confused about the legality of online poker in the USA. I play at carbon, black chip, and americas cardroom... Does this mean I'm breaking the law?
 
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I'm still confused about the legality of online poker in the USA. I play at carbon, black chip, and americas cardroom... Does this mean I'm breaking the law?

Yes, but then again oral sex, even in the privacy of one's own home is illegal in many states as well.

Government too big? Naaaaaa

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I'm still confused about the legality of online poker in the USA. I play at carbon, black chip, and americas cardroom... Does this mean I'm breaking the law?
No becuase on the UIGEA it says that we are allowed to play online poker, it is that carbon, black chip, and americas cardroom arent allowed to accept banking transaction for us to gamble with..
Weird I know... I think that the politicians can say that they arent stopping us to play poker. Just that these companies cant accept money thru bank transaction for us to play poker.
 
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No becuase on the UIGEA it says that we are allowed to play online poker, it is that carbon, black chip, and americas cardroom arent allowed to accept banking transaction for us to gamble with..
Weird I know... I think that the politicians can say that they arent stopping us to play poker. Just that these companies cant accept money thru bank transaction for us to play poker.

But I could deposit there if I wanted to couldn't I? Would that not be a banking transaction? And what if I won a couple hundred dollars, could I not withdraw it?
 
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Yes you can deposit there and withdraw without breaking laws in the US. The ones who are breaking the law would be the banks that process the transactions, but since most sites like acr and others have found a way to get around U.S. bank transactions, then you are breaking no federal laws by playing poker online in the US. However, some individual states have laws that make it illegal to play poker online, so you will have to check the state laws of the state that you reside in and see if they restrict online poker. I live in California and we have no state law prohibiting it.
 
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Ok cool thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't wasting my time cashing in freerolls in which the money would be useless.
 
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There is nothing in it for the White House. Why would they support something that does not benefit them directly?
 
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The USGovernmafia are complete idiots.
 
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this just comes down to some washington idiot paper clipping the poker world to a home land security bill this would have never gotton thru if 911 hadnnt happened. now it'll take the indiviual states to make up there own laws ,which will eventually happen ,but will take time
 
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So, do any US players have issues depositing or withdrawing from Carbon at all? I've been wanting to play really bad lately, just too worried about losing my money (not at the table =P)

I just don't trust any sites that suggest online sites to use... They get paid when people sign up through them.
 
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Then don't deposit alot of money. just put like $30-$50.00 on and start grinding it up.:cool:
 
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