PartyPoker gets 2 new rising stars - Bad Business for Pokerstars?

Hello guys!


First, huge thank you to everybody who went watch my previous Poker News video, much appreciated! ^^

Now for this week, I thought about making a video summarizing up recent events...


After the lost of 2 main pro players, the High Roller Boycott of the Turbo Series Main Event, and the lost opportunity of signing up 2 rising stars streamers, Matt Staples (Jamie Staples Brother) and Hristivoje Pavlovic (AllinPav) now with PartyPoker, is Pokerstars really going downhill?




Are you guys tempted to jump ship and go play on Party Poker as well or you still think that PS could be able to turn this around?

Annnnd Kevin Martin also left pokerstars a couple days ago... wow.

What's going on seriously?

A bit off topic, but I have been watching PAV for years now, dude is an absolute animal (I say that in the most complimentary way). Whenever I wanna see consistent winning I tend to always end up in his stream. Matt is a beast as well, glad they getting what they deserve.

pokerpie said:

A bit off topic, but I have been watching PAV for years now, dude is an absolute animal (I say that in the most complimentary way). Whenever I wanna see consistent winning I tend to always end up in his stream. Matt is a beast as well, glad they getting what they deserve.

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I completely agree, his mind games are on point and he is perfectly balanced. I am often wondering if I have a good bankroll if I am gonna be able to make it evolve and stay balanced at all time. Very hard to not be tilted and always stay positive. Also finding the right balance between Defensive and Aggressive gameplay.

Matt also has his way of balancing things out, I think it's the secrete to be successful at poker.

PokerStars, has been moving away from having "real" poker players working for them. They have some old school guys left. DNegs- is basically a part owner or shareholder, so you can't consider him a Stars Pro , really?? I think Moneymaker still does events but he is no longer a "pro" Anyway, you get the idea.

Doug Polk took alot of heat 2 years or more ago for calling out PS , bad attitude towards professional poker players. Looks like he was right. Introducing all these "gambling" versions of Poker to try and draw in the degenerate gambler, opening stupid boxes , instead of earning rewards for volume playing.BUT- they are still making money and that is all they care about. Finally some players are leaving, but it has been a slow process.

Go Hristivoje gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Good job Young man !
We are everywhere

Since I am used to playing on PS, I hope they take in all of this in account and improve their customer relations. However, if they don't and some other room like partypoker keeps getting bigger and better, a new account on their site is just a few clicks away..

jsnake716 said:

PokerStars, has been moving away from having "real" poker players working for them. They have some old school guys left. DNegs- is basically a part owner or shareholder, so you can't consider him a Stars Pro , really?? I think Moneymaker still does events but he is no longer a "pro" Anyway, you get the idea.

Doug Polk took alot of heat 2 years or more ago for calling out PS , bad attitude towards professional poker players. Looks like he was right. Introducing all these "gambling" versions of Poker to try and draw in the degenerate gambler, opening stupid boxes , instead of earning rewards for volume playing.BUT- they are still making money and that is all they care about. Finally some players are leaving, but it has been a slow process.

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I didn't know about this...I knew Doug made fun of PS a lot but didn't know he took much heat for it! But yeah I noticed their gambling schemes with Spin n Go Max and push for turbos, the new games like Fusion (that I actually like despite the huge variance) and the recent game 6+....and the chests... *vomit* .... if at least they would give something good once in a while, like a 20$ or something...I must have opened at least 500 of them and the most I got is either 1 or 2$ lol.

Bee said:

Go Hristivoje gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Good job Young man !
We are everywhere

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What do you mean ''we'' are everywhere? ^^

Btw, very good music selection you got there in your signature, I love Curtis Mayfield music.

bzvz222 said:

Since I am used to playing on PS, I hope they take in all of this in account and improve their customer relations. However, if they don't and some other room like PartyPoker keeps getting bigger and better, a new account on their site is just a few clicks away..

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Haha yea man, same here...I will keep playing on PS for now but yea, it's starting to annoy me all these crap decisions.

lajeandom said:

What do you mean ''we'' are everywhere? ^^

Btw, very good music selection you got there in your signature, I love Curtis Mayfield music.

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It means he is a Serb by origin. His familly went to Australia before he was born.

Really PartyPoker so good that many go to him?

i think that something going on online.last couple years of years many players left rooms.regular players.we will see but something got to change.

Far too much money grabbing, greedy, selfish and ignorant of the integrity of the game.
PS

jsnake716 said:

PokerStars, has been moving away from having "real" poker players working for them.............. they are still making money and that is all they care about. Finally some players are leaving, but it has been a slow process.

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I totally agree with these statements . Top quality poker pros leave while few (mostly) low quality or not so active players , compared to the pros who left , remain in the pro team (it's not so pro anymore ) , rake increases , tournament rakeback decreases , etc .
I don't really know what's going on with pokerstars' top ranking heads of the company nowadays .Maybe they have self-destructive tedencies ??
Or all they really care is to make really fast easy money for shareholders , while they don't give a F@*# for players ( regs and novice/recreational) or for the good of the game ???

This entire PokerStars story has me feeling conflicted, Stars is probably going to be the first "legal" site to operate on-line poker in Pennsylvania, even though things seem to have stalled a little lately.

On 1 hand , I would love to be able to play poker on Stars software, it is so much better than the "un-regulated" sites I have to play on now, because I am in the U.S. I do play poker on multiple sites and I have not lost any money on these sites YET, I always say yet,because it can happen and if a site does decide to shut-down and keep player funds, there is not much we can do , since the sites are not "legal" in U.S. Of course, if Stars does open in Pennsylvania, I will play, I know the player pool will be too small, games will be limited, etc.....

On the other hand, I do not like the idea of playing on a site that has shown such contempt for serious poker players. I really hope 888 or party poker would open a Pa. site, but if it happens it will take longer, so once again, it seems like the poker player gets the "shitty" end of the stick again.

In the end, I just wish the United States Politicians, could act in the best interests of it's citizens and not in the best interest's of Big Donors and politician's kickbacks. That is a wish that won't come true in my lifetime.

no luck in US

Too bad we cant join the fun here in the USA . I'd be happy with Party or 'Stars !