LarkMarlow
Legend
Silver Level
You beat me to the punch, AH. 
I was just about to post this breaking news! Here are a few excerpts from the article:
"During my initial conversation with Lederer, I made it clear that if he was looking for an outlet to make this easy on him in return for the opportunity to run a story, then we were not interested. I also made it clear that my team and I would need adequate time to prepare in full, and that he would need to prepare for quite a long sit-down to cover everything we were hoping to cover. Lederer agreed, and ultimately we decided on a video interview so there would be nothing lost in translation. The poker community deserved not only to read what Lederer had to say, but they deserved to see and hear the answers directly."
"The PokerNews team and I reviewed the footage, and spent the past week editing and preparing for the release of what will ultimately be known as "The Lederer Files."
"The video will be released in six or possibly even seven 30-minute video segments. It will all begin with part one and part two on Tuesday, Sept. 18, and the remainder of the segments will be released throughout this week."
I was just about to post this breaking news! Here are a few excerpts from the article:"During my initial conversation with Lederer, I made it clear that if he was looking for an outlet to make this easy on him in return for the opportunity to run a story, then we were not interested. I also made it clear that my team and I would need adequate time to prepare in full, and that he would need to prepare for quite a long sit-down to cover everything we were hoping to cover. Lederer agreed, and ultimately we decided on a video interview so there would be nothing lost in translation. The poker community deserved not only to read what Lederer had to say, but they deserved to see and hear the answers directly."
"The PokerNews team and I reviewed the footage, and spent the past week editing and preparing for the release of what will ultimately be known as "The Lederer Files."
"The video will be released in six or possibly even seven 30-minute video segments. It will all begin with part one and part two on Tuesday, Sept. 18, and the remainder of the segments will be released throughout this week."
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
"The PokerNews team and I reviewed the footage, and spent the past week editing and preparing for the release of what will ultimately be known as "The Lederer Files."
They are edited and that implies someone else's POV. Get looking for your 'grain of salt'. If the interviewer had, or any of his friends had/have existing FT accounts, they will come with questions and conclusions and EDITING decisions that will skew the truth. It can not be helped, or prevented. It could be softened by HL giving his after the fact UNEDITED reply to these Lederer Files.
Color me skeptical....
They are edited and that implies someone else's POV. Get looking for your 'grain of salt'. If the interviewer had, or any of his friends had/have existing FT accounts, they will come with questions and conclusions and EDITING decisions that will skew the truth. It can not be helped, or prevented. It could be softened by HL giving his after the fact UNEDITED reply to these Lederer Files.
Color me skeptical....
MediaBLITZ
Legend
Silver Level
Editing also just implies "cleaned up" for public consumption. Original footage is incredibly tedious and a great way to lose your audience.
I think it will become very apparent if editing was biased or not.
But Howard's problem is going to be and always will be - what can he say now that he couldn't have said before?
I'm not a regular follower, but you can be sure I'll be checking out Negreanu's blog while this is going on. Oh yeah...
I think it will become very apparent if editing was biased or not.
But Howard's problem is going to be and always will be - what can he say now that he couldn't have said before?
I'm not a regular follower, but you can be sure I'll be checking out Negreanu's blog while this is going on. Oh yeah...
qwerrk
Rock Star
Silver Level
I'll second this opinion. Yeah, it's 4 letters but 'edit' is not a dirty word.
(And hello CC, been absent far too long! Till the dam breaks, backgammon is main online thinking person's game.)
(And hello CC, been absent far too long! Till the dam breaks, backgammon
is main online thinking person's game.)
sam1chips
Visionary
Silver Level
Haha, Negreanu has already sent out a foreshadowing tweet...
arahel_jazz
Unbalanced and Committed
Silver Level
Makes me wonder how relevant his comments will be given the amended DOJ complaint. http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/09/doj-files-second-amended-complaint-alleges-lederer-13385.htm
It's all about spin. Politicians, and CEO's habitually cannot look at you straight in the face and give you the real answer.
It's all about spin. Politicians, and CEO's habitually cannot look at you straight in the face and give you the real answer.
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
looking forward to it but 7 hour interview cut down to 3 ? 4 hours edited out . does that sound normal ? I guess Chris should do one soon after
There are probably people who can give a more definitive answer (and obviously I haven't seen any of the footage to judge how much of this stuff would actually be a factor) but yeah, it sounds pretty normal to me.
There will invariably be all sorts of crap on the raw tape, like takes where the sound wasn't working right or where or the other of them tripped over their words and had to start over or where the answers were, frankly, just too boring to include.
As people have suggested above, the fact that editing can be used to skew the message doesn't necessarily mean that it has been. We'll have to watch and see, I guess...
MediaBLITZ
Legend
Silver Level
looking forward to it but 7 hour interview cut down to 3 ? 4 hours edited out . does that sound normal ? I guess Chris should do one soon after
Actually. no. Normal would be cutting it down to an hour or less. I am not being a smart ass (at least not this time) - it's what I do for a living. But yeah, lot's of reasons for editing that are not nefarious in nature. Bad audio, bad video, someone farted, belched, repeated the same story 3 hours later, taking breaks, host stammering (have to make the host look good always), brain farts, someone bumps into the camera and they have to start over at some point, etc. These things get cut out in the name of production value and viewer watchability.
If Lederer gets shorted on this you can be sure he'll say something. If Lederer gets the benefit of this you can be sure Negreanu will something - well Daniel is going to say something either way.
And it is very difficult to edit an interview to make it say something it doesn't without b-roll cutaways and the like. About the only way you can do this is taking out isolated sentences like they do for movie and book reviews. Like I said before, it will be pretty apparent if there were any shenanigans, but I would be willing to bet (and I am not a gambling man) that whoever "edited" this piece is NOT a trained editor and is not capable of pulling it off anyway.
WARNING - Personal rant that has nothing to do with poker:
There are so many "trained" video editors running around today because they went to a two day seminar on how the software works. But learning (more like getting exposed to) how the software works means jack. These quickie classes do not teach you how to edit. It would be like going to a two day seminar on how a CAD program works - that doesn't make you an architect; or a two day seminar on Quickbooks - doesn't make you an accountant.
I am constantly in the position of hiring and contracting editors for TV and radio. Even the most trained, degreed people have had to spend several weeks up to months under me to learn how to actually edit.
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Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
You have to sign up with poker news to view the video lol:
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/...es-the-beginning-of-full-tilt-poker-13429.htm
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/...es-the-beginning-of-full-tilt-poker-13429.htm
moots
Min-cash specialist
Loyaler
It's a youtube video, we can post the direct link if allowed.
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
If it is a public youtube video there is no reason it can't be posted here.
moots
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