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Rumor he might have been using a RFID chip any merit to this ? Seems unlikely he could win so many sessions back to back considering some of the calls he was making. Maybe he is the best ever ~@@~
 
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Mike Postle, conducted a public interview with Mike Matusow, claiming his innocence over the Stones Gambling Hall cheating allegations. Did he do himself any favours with the interview? Some say no.

Mike Postle: ‘I Will Play Anyone Heads-Up’


This guy is just an awful human being. I have been sucked into reading the 2+2 threads and watching some of the videos. He got caught and now his "interview" with Mike the mouth is just making it worse.
 
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prior i say - no accuse anyone of such a terrible thing with not proper proof
i watched many hands shown by mr ingram and polk
i listen interview
i believer now, it appears he cheater & criminal person
hope it get investigated by police & charges brought & if guilty needs to return all the monies he stolen from people & be placed in jail
and those that conspire with him need be also placed in prison
this a very very horrible thing for poker - now who we able trust?
 
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What is mind blowing is if he is cheating and is certainly looking that way. Why in the hell would he be so obvious. Never losing and making the most absurd calls as if he is privy to his opponents holdings. Seems to always make the correct play on the river. Remember “potripper”. If these thief’s weren’t so greedy that may get away with it. Another black eye for poker.
 
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prior i say - no accuse anyone of such a terrible thing with not proper proof
i watched many hands shown by mr ingram and polk
i listen interview
i believer now, it appears he cheater & criminal person
hope it get investigated by police & charges brought & if guilty needs to return all the monies he stolen from people & be placed in jail
and those that conspire with him need be also placed in prison
this a very very horrible thing for poker - now who we able trust?

The problem is going to be in California , if the FBI does not step in and charge him with a federal charge, the "liberals" have screwed up the courts so bad it will probably be only a civil offense and he will get off with just having his accounts seized and barred from casinos. (I guess the FBI could charge him with some kind of federal fraud case)
 
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I do think it is hard to say what is going on. I see where you would go with the odds, and think he would have to lose sometime.
I also have been called with hands that I thought should never have called.
One other member did mention that he does play with a lot of the same people. Maybe he just "has their number" on a lot of plays they do. I do call more on the river when I play against certain players, knowing, (at least I hope) they are just bluffing yet again.
I do know one thing for certain, these things like a lot of others in the social media. Should not be guilty until you can prove you are innocent.
 
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I do think it is hard to say what is going on. I see where you would go with the odds, and think he would have to lose sometime.
I also have been called with hands that I thought should never have called.
One other member did mention that he does play with a lot of the same people. Maybe he just "has their number" on a lot of plays they do. I do call more on the river when I play against certain players, knowing, (at least I hope) they are just bluffing yet again.
I do know one thing for certain, these things like a lot of others in the social media. Should not be guilty until you can prove you are innocent.


It is over , people have went through every stream, his win rate is impossible. It is not about playing a hand or 2 wrong. you have professional poker players running all the numbers. Besides the fact that no one has ever won at this rate. Ever and he is playing small stakes. The video evidence is damming. if you watch more than a couple hands you can see him actually looking... Oh forget it. If you want to believe he is innocent OK
This hurts poker not the individuals. Every poker player should be upset.
 
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RFID chip reader ?

Rumor he might have been using a RFID chip any merit to this ? Seems unlikely he could win so many sessions back to back considering some of the calls he was making. Maybe he is the best ever ~@@~

RFID chip reader ? Does that type of software exist ?
 
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It is over , people have went through every stream, his win rate is impossible. It is not about playing a hand or 2 wrong. you have professional poker players running all the numbers. Besides the fact that no one has ever won at this rate. Ever and he is playing small stakes. The video evidence is damming. if you watch more than a couple hands you can see him actually looking... Oh forget it. If you want to believe he is innocent OK
This hurts poker not the individuals. Every poker player should be upset.
I never said I thought he was innocent or guilty. What I did say is it isn't fair to say someone is guilty just because the majority on social media sites say he is. Guilty until proven innocent is not good is what I said.
 
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Is he a cheating scumbag? Yes. But, there were definitely signs well before we ever had proof. He once said he would play anyone heads up. Anyone with that level of confidence is cheating. There are several people I would not play heads up. First and foremost: God.
 
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I do know one thing for certain, these things like a lot of others in the social media. Should not be guilty until you can prove you are innocent.

That is true in principle, and ideally it would have been good, if the people, who got suspicious about this, had taken the time to collect some of the evidence and do some number crunching, before they went public, so they could say "this is our edidence". Like his winrate, his river stats, his showdown stats, damming footage etc.

However its also important to remember, that all this evidence has only been collected due to the combined effort of people looking into this, who would not have done so, had the accusations not been made public.

Finally there is a history for this kind of cheating not actually being punished by the actual law. The online superusers for instance were never procecuted and convicted, they were just removed from their jobs.

So this self regulation by the poker community might be all, there even is to it. And its hardly particularly unfair, that someone, who has almost certainly cheated, like we are now 99,99% sure, has to afterwards find another profession than playing poker.
 
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What I did say is it isn't fair to say someone is guilty just because the majority on social media sites say he is.

That is also not, what anyone is doing. People are saying, he is almost certainly guilty based on all the information and evidence, which has been presented on social media, not because of the opinions of others.
 
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i so upset of this
already people i know think i a degenerate or somethin, that i wish play poker serious
now this criminal stuff makes all our community seem illicit?
 
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What is mind blowing is if he is cheating and is certainly looking that way. Why in the hell would he be so obvious. Never losing and making the most absurd calls as if he is privy to his opponents holdings. Seems to always make the correct play on the river. Remember “potripper”. If these thief’s weren’t so greedy that may get away with it. Another black eye for poker.

As I remember it, "potripper" needed money for some medical situation in his family. So he could not wait to slowly win the same amount of money over years. And it might have been something similar here. Mike was playing 1/3 and 2/5, so if he only increased his winrate slightly, its up for debate, if it would even be worth it.

There is presumably at least one more person involved, who is working for Stones, so they even have to split the profit between them. And something like this is not that easy to carry out. Its also risky, and the stream might not run forever. So in a way its understandable, that if someone decide to do this, they want to milk it for as much as possible, while they can.
 
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I've finally decided to watch a few hands of the allegations. That one announcer was as crooked as could be. "He's not going broke here with KK." Who says that? The announcer should face a permanent ban.
 
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RFID cards?

I read with interest, the news about the cheating scandal. I was not even aware that cards contained RFID chips to send data to the broadcast booth. I thought pinhole cams were a security risk if someone could tap the live feed from them. I had no idea the cards were basically "marked" by RFID tech. It never occurred to anyone that this would be another avenue to cheat? Sure looked to me like the dude was staring at his lap during the game. If you are going to cheat be better or more obvious. Maybe he should have pretended his old lady was bugging him on his phone? Instead he looked like perv staring at his privates...lol. Oh yeah, let me check with my crotch, it says I'm a head...oh wait, see what I did there?....lol
 
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Good investigation by Joey Ingram and some good YouTube videos by Doug Polk and Jeff Borski detailing some hand actions only “God” aka cheater Mike would know
Either he read into your soul every time and make the correct plays or maybe he has access to your hole cards during real time through his cell phone. You decide after watching the videos
 
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I've finally decided to watch a few hands of the allegations. That one announcer was as crooked as could be. "He's not going broke here with KK." Who says that? The announcer should face a permanent ban.

I think, we should be careful about jumping to conclusions about, who else might have been in on this. The commentators saw this day in and day out, and maybe they just bought into the idea, that he is a really good player, and that for him it was actually normal to get away from KK in that particular spot. Not saying, its impossible, that one or more commentators is in on it, but we dont know yet.
 
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Mike Postle, conducted a public interview with Mike Matusow, claiming his innocence over the Stones Gambling Hall cheating allegations. Did he do himself any favours with the interview? Some say no.

Mike Postle: ‘I Will Play Anyone Heads-Up’


Let's imprison somebody based on their winrate.

If he was cheating then he would win every hand. Or, especially play hands with his opponents having strong hands. Thereby getting them to commit large stacks to the pot for him to her call on the river.

What would you expect his winrate to be "without cheating"? Now there's a hypothetical number!

Good luck !
 
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If he was cheating then he would win every hand.

That would only be a good idea, if he wanted to make absolutely sure, he would eventually be caught. Just look at, how the british military used INIGMA data during WWII. If they had used all the information, they picked up, to warn citys and troops about coming german attacks, it would quickly have become clear to the germans, that their code had been broken. So instead they only used the information in a few key spots, even though that meant extra loss of lives in the short term.
 
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Is Matusow that gullible or is he that stupid? What kind of ****ing elementary interview was this?
Seriously infuriates me that a platform was given to Postle and no tough questions were asked.
Thank you Matusow for finally getting Postle out of his shell after almost a week only to have NOTHING answered.
 
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Postal says he'll play anybody heads up. Get Cates on the JunglePhone and clean him out at high stakes.
 
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I believe Mike P to be the biggest cheat to play the modern day game, I think it to be disgusting. Only time and very thorough investigation will tell us how he is doing it. We all believe him to be cheating after watching all the videos on it, its crazy how no one can prove it right now but hes doing it live so it shouldn't really be that hard to figure out over time. Some of his play is so spooky to watch, it is just like he can see exactly whats going on in all possible spots.This cheat sickens me and when he is found out like I believe will happen for sure, he should be dealt with to the fullest extent possible. He should be in jail in my opinion, he absolutely sickens me. Cheaters should be punished and dealt with to the fullest extent. So horrible to watch this guys play, no way in hell is he not cheating it just needs to be proven, and I am sure it will happen in due time. Let there be justice.
 
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I can't say that this interview helped him in any way.
 
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