Daniel has thoughts on unlimited rebuy tournaments

Daniel Negreanu has sparked a discussion on unlimited rebuys stating his displeasure with the upcoming WPT Five Diamond for allowing unlimited re-entries. Do you share Daniel's thoughts on unlimited rebuy tournaments?

Daniel Negreanu Speaks Out Against the Unlimited Poker Tournament Re-Entry Craze

hi hi
i agree with daniel on this
unlimited rebuy just makes it easier for rich players keep trying after busting out, plus its a scam make more rake for the casinos

I also disagree with unlimited rebuys tournament.
Because players with cash has a huge advantage to just rebuy every time by going all-in with even very poor hands
Those kind of games rarely works out for players who do not want to spend a lot and play safe.

I too don't like aspect of rebuy tourneys. I still remember my first rebuy tourney I was in. One guy kept egging players on to keep going all in, he was getting a lot of bites. He kept rebuying until he won.
Then he sat out after getting a lot of chips until after the rebuy was over.
At least with one rebuy and one add on, you can expect to pay 3 times and figure that in.

I agree with Daniel as well. The rebuy takes a lot away with regards to skill. Its pushing luck.

I don't usually agree with Daniel on much but this is one thing I 100% do ! Tournaments were so much better in the old days bc they were bankroll equalizers. Once you bought in and sat down the size of you BR bc irrelevant, all that mattered was how many bbs you had .

I enjoyed those days more both in playing and watching !

For players with a solid bankroll it would be an advantage to be able to make unlimited rebuys. :flute:

Personally I dislike rebuys online , they would destroy my bankroll , but then again I am not a good player so I if I lose I want to quit In live games it's not fair for people with no big bankroll , unfair advantage I believe for the winning players or the rich ones

Of course this is generally a good idea. Specifically for the deeper field, lower buy-in events.

However the issue with Negreanu positioning himself on this issue - to receive praise and maintain his good guy image after an ugly wsop 2019- is he could have taken a genuine stance a decade and a half ago if truly convicted. Instead, he has talked out of both sides of his mouth for years whilst being the biggest rebuy culprit.

Here is some reportage from WSOP 2006-

His 48 rebuys in the $1k at the 2006 World Series of Poker remains a record, so you may be surprised to hear Daniel Negreanu's thoughts on rebuy tournaments being left off the newly released 2009 WSOP schedule.

"I still hold the rebuy record and I think I also have second, third and fourth," Negreanu told PokerListings. "But I was still all for getting rid of them this year and it wasn't just about saving me money. When you are giving away a WSOP bracelet I think everyone should have an equal chance to win it, not just a chance based on how fat their wallets are."

I am confused as to how we are still here in 2019, thirteen years later (and please note it was well underway prior to 2006) with Daniel yet rebuying in the same manner -18 bullets into the Colossus WSOPE 2019 alone in an attempt tosecure the POTY title.

As the negativity swirled and gathered around Negreanu and Sean Deeb (again) specifically for trying to buy the player of the year award, Daniel has offered myriad excuses regarding his habits and practices. He has even declared he was thinking about only entering future tournaments once - a single bullet.

Okay Daniel, why don’t you start with this. Take your stance and actually only enter tournaments once- lead by example.

I don't agree with Negreanu. It gets more money in the prize pool. Sure it decreases your odds of winning since there's that many more players, but it's poker tho. There's always an element of luck in MTT.

I think it is something of principles, it is true that muti entry tournaments have been a bad addendum to poker tournaments and I agree with Daniel I hope he can campaign for this to be less tournaments of this nature or it will end multiple entry into tournaments

He has more money than most players and seems as though he would use that to his advantage with multi entering but I do think that it ruins the integrity of the tournament. Isn't the point of a poker tournament to go as far as you can before busting out? It changes the game to something that it's not suppose to be.

I like & prefer "old stile" poker when FREEZOUTS were popular & mostly all tournaments had freezouts rule (means 1 entering is alowed).

I never interacted with that before in real life so now i just say that i don't care
It may be that in the future i will be the one of rich guys and who knows what will happen there.

Hi,I totally agree with Negreanu about unlimited rebuy tournaments..I think tournaments should have neither rebuys nor add ons,.Maybe ,they could be used only in High Rollers events .but with only one rebuy and one add on .That would be fai rfor all players.

I disagree and think it's actually better for poker players overall.
It attracts rich recreational players who are more inclined to play rebuys since they can gamble without being afraid of busting.
Regulars can rebuy if they get an unlucky result in an all-in situation, so they have a better opportunity in winning.
Daniel as a poker ambassador should be advocating different options for playing poker and not limiting them to what he likes.

Thank you for the informative post. I found myself agreeing with Negreanu until I read this. Sounds like he's getting beat at his own game..

DS3 said:

Of course this is generally a good idea. Specifically for the deeper field, lower buy-in events.

However the issue with Negreanu positioning himself on this issue - to receive praise and maintain his good guy image after an ugly WSOP 2019- is he could have taken a genuine stance a decade and a half ago if truly convicted. Instead, he has talked out of both sides of his mouth for years whilst being the biggest rebuy culprit.

Here is some reportage from WSOP 2006-

His 48 rebuys in the $1k at the 2006 World Series of Poker remains a record, so you may be surprised to hear Daniel Negreanu's thoughts on rebuy tournaments being left off the newly released 2009 WSOP schedule.

"I still hold the rebuy record and I think I also have second, third and fourth," Negreanu told PokerListings. "But I was still all for getting rid of them this year and it wasn't just about saving me money. When you are giving away a WSOP bracelet I think everyone should have an equal chance to win it, not just a chance based on how fat their wallets are."

I am confused as to how we are still here in 2019, thirteen years later (and please note it was well underway prior to 2006) with Daniel yet rebuying in the same manner -18 bullets into the Colossus WSOPE 2019 alone in an attempt tosecure the POTY title.

As the negativity swirled and gathered around Negreanu and Sean Deeb (again) specifically for trying to buy the player of the year award, Daniel has offered myriad excuses regarding his habits and practices. He has even declared he was thinking about only entering future tournaments once - a single bullet.

Okay Daniel, why don’t you start with this. Take your stance and actually only enter tournaments once- lead by example.

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rj_montana said:

Thank you for the informative post. I found myself agreeing with Negreanu until I read this. Sounds like he's getting beat at his own game..

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rj montana,

Thanks! In essence I agree with what Negreanu says regarding rebuys also...but, he has been saying this for years without changing his habits/practices and it always appears more a public relations exercise than honest conviction.

However, as marybake notes above, there are contexts where rebuys help the field and many rec players can benefit. Where I think they need to be strictly limited is in really broad, deep field events such as those held at the WSOP.

However if the event is a local tournament where limited pros enter and rebuys are allowed this definitely does boost the prize pool.